Dragonball Z (2015)

[Ratatapa]

And anytime the opposite holds true (like Goku going first against Golden Frieza) Vegeta wrecks shop. You guys can get salty - I do too - but that's Japan, baby. Land of the tropes. There may be no "childhood friend" tropes here, but there's certainly the "whoever fights first, gets bodied" trope.

I don't remember but is there any fight either in Z or Super, where there's only 1 fight? Like 1 hero start and he finishes the ennemy himself? afaik never happened


Still hoping for redemption for Trunks, but we all know how this will end

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Goku will hit the button either on purpose or mistake and All-Chan will come save him

[Lucavi]

It never happened because tropes, man. The only time shit like that happened was pre-Z in tournaments. Just think of them of saturday morning cartoons where the villian always gets away right at the 27 minute mark.

[Cream Soda]

I don't remember but is there any fight either in Z or Super, where there's only 1 fight? Like 1 hero start and he finishes the ennemy himself? afaik never happened


Still hoping for redemption for Trunks, but we all know how this will end

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Goku will hit the button either on purpose or mistake and All-Chan will come save him

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Has it been stated that Zen-chan exsists in all timelines as one entity? or are does each timeline have it's own?

Because people have kept going on as if our zen-chan would come to Trunks' timeline when goku presses the button and i'm like lol wat

[Tyrath]

And anytime the opposite holds true (like Goku going first against Golden Frieza) Vegeta wrecks shop.

Problem is, even then Goku came in to save the day from Golden Frieza's planet destroyer

[Tyrath]

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Has it been stated that Zen-chan exsists in all timelines as one entity? or are does each timeline have it's own?

Because people have kept going on as if our zen-chan would come to Trunks' timeline when goku presses the button and i'm like lol wat

One assumes he exists beyond time and space considering hes the creator. The Zamasu that's shown up seems to be the one Goku met in his timeline. So maybe the gods are beyond the timeline shit. Who knows.

[Cream Soda]

One assumes he exists beyond time and space considering hes the creator. The Zamasu that's shown up seems to be the one Goku met in his timeline. So maybe the gods are beyond the timeline shit. Who knows.

eh, I'm not going to buy into that until something like that is confirmed. We're definitely not the original timeline so idk why Zeno would be chilling in ours instead of the actual timeline.

Also unconvinced on Zamasu since it just creates a huge plot hole.

(Our Zamasu didn't meet Goku until he went there to investigate Black. So if that meeting were his reason for hating Goku; then you have a inconsistent loop since were it not for Black, Goku and Zamasu would have never met to begin with).

That also directly conflicts with the already established time travel for DB that instead of things actually affecting the future when you go back and change something, a new timeline is created instead. That'd be a huge recton if now alternate timelines had continuity between one another

[Lucavi]

Problem is, even then Goku came in to save the day from Golden Frieza's planet destroyer

Very true. The power of one trope is higher than the other.

[Dantrag]

I'd be ok with fusion...

[Seha]

Any chance in that future Goku has become the God of destruction and Zamasu's alt? Through whatever revival..multiverse..fusioning..possession...Idk man I'm lost.

[Ratatapa]

So episode 57 and 58

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Episode 57 advent of the immortal God zamasu on September 4
Episode 58 the mystery of black and zamasu on September 11

No episode on September 18

[The Stig]

Whatever the explanation is I'm sure it's full of arguable holes.

Here's something to take your minds off things for a moment:

[DrClout]

Lmfao

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[Abandon]

I don´t know man but unless they come up with a really solid explanation (yeh..right) for this bullshit, it´s just bad fucking writing and borderline insulting. Actually getting more pissed off the more I think about it.

Edit: Also, even IF they manage to pull something reasonable out of their asses...

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X-ing off Vegeta as SSJB within 30 seconds and then Goku ONCE AGAIN being magically able to hold his own (even though admittedly having some trouble), after it´s been hammered the fuck home for EP after EP that Goku and Vegeta are pretty much equal in power in DBS, is just a slap in the face to all the fans who´ve been waiting for a "Vegeta moment" ever since he joined forces with the Z team. Not like they haven´t done that over and over allready and just recently with the events of Return of F and the fight against Hit in the Multiverse Tournament.

incorrect statement.

http://www.mangapanda.com/dragon-ball-super/13/20

[Virg]

Not a manga reader so I wouldn´t have known that. Far as I´m aware that particular statement was never made in the anime.

[Vandalhart]

Wait... there's a senzu bean floating around somewhere?
A. That seems important. I wonder if they can plant that sucker.
B. They should have brought some with them.

[Greatguardian]

incorrect statement.

http://www.mangapanda.com/dragon-ball-super/13/20

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If I'm understanding that correctly, Beerus isn't saying that Goku's stronger than Vegeta. He's just saying that Vegeta wore himself out by fighting the giant trash can dude in blue form for too long while Goku came in with fresh legs.

[Null]

Wait... there's a senzu bean floating around somewhere?
A. That seems important. I wonder if they can plant that sucker.
B. They should have brought some with them.

Goku got 7 from Korin just a few episodes ago and gave one to Trunks. He may still have a pouch on him.

[Adajer]

will we see the return of the saiyan near death recovery power up?

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no


but they are bringing things back tho

[Abandon]

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If I'm understanding that correctly, Beerus isn't saying that Goku's stronger than Vegeta. He's just saying that Vegeta wore himself out by fighting the giant trash can dude in blue form for too long while Goku came in with fresh legs.

nah. they were trying to figure out why goku only went red, and he flat out says that goku's red is stronger than vegeta's blue at the time, so he's not really gonna burn himslef out fightin ol buddy like they thought he would

[Vaspinne]

nah. they were trying to figure out why goku only went red, and he flat out says that goku's red is stronger than vegeta's blue at the time, so he's not really gonna burn himslef out fightin ol buddy like they thought he would

From the way the dialogue was written, I gotta agree with GG. Whis basically says that Vegeta was burned out from transforming to SSB too often so he didn't have his usual power. This was more or less confirmed by Goku later on in the same chapter

http://www.mangapanda.com/dragon-ball-super/13/33