Dragonball Z (2015)

**The Stig** · 2016-08-31 11:03

https://i.redd.it/rq70ugkflmix.jpg goku win rate
http://i.imgur.com/PfzMxjV.jpg Vegeta win rate

Both sfw, didn't [image] as it's a bit big.

**Tyrath** · 2016-08-31 11:12

If we ignore original Dragon Ball though Goku comes out lower at 38%.

**Inshiya** · 2016-08-31 11:32

Why does that chart have Goku v. Kid Buu as a loss?

**Tyrath** · 2016-08-31 11:39

Didn't goku only win because Dende made a wish to restore his power?

**Inshiya** · 2016-08-31 12:11

Well if we're going to get technical and take away all wishes, sensu beans, and bullshit powerups then all of their win %s go to 0.

**Tyrath** · 2016-08-31 12:15

Actually just quickly watched it on youtube. It counts as a loss because Goku switches out and lets Vegeta fight him while he works on the spirit bomb.

**Ratatapa** · 2016-08-31 12:25

Vegeta has much less fights then Goku (due to normal DB)
So Goku numbers will fluctuate less too

**The Stig** · 2016-08-31 15:10

Originally Posted by Inshiya

Well if we're going to get technical and take away all wishes, sensu beans, and bullshit powerups then all of their win %s go to 0.

Gwahahaha, I love DB discussions/arguements. So fun! Love this comment.

More DB funs:

**Vaspinne** · 2016-08-31 15:25

Incoming Super Saiyan Green

**Elcura** · 2016-08-31 15:59

Originally Posted by The Stig

Gwahahaha, I love DB discussions/arguements. So fun! Love this comment.

More DB funs:

That's great.

Eventually we'll have the whole spectrum then rainbows

**Drai** · 2016-08-31 20:57

I had assumed it was going to end up changing color based on the temperature of flames, yellow > red > blue > white, in order of which burns at higher temperatures, but now I'm not sure, unless Rose is a Goku Black only transformation.

**BWYuko** · 2016-09-01 00:01

Rose is definitely a Black only thing related to U10 kaio influences.

So... I was conjecturing... Beerus used the super balls to wish U6 Earth back. Was thinking U6 Kakarrot was still sent to Earth and just never bumped his noggin, remaining evil, thus explaining his willingness to undergo Zamasu's subjugation/partnership.

But then I remembered that, per Cabba, U6 Saiyans are peacekeepers, so they would have no motive to send monkey babies to conquer other worlds in the first place, so I guess that theory's out...

Think he's just from U10? Or alternate timeline? Or he was actually evil in U6? Clone? Fusion? I'm lost.

And btw,

Spoiler: show

is terrible, terrible writing. Sure, no more Bulma is character motivation enough, but still.... wtf.

**Tyrath** · 2016-09-01 00:18

I don't think he's actually any form of Goku since he was referring to Goku in the 3rd person. Might be someone modeled after him through some Zamasu shenanigans.

**BWYuko** · 2016-09-01 01:25

Well per this last episode, Black pretty much confirms that it's Goku's body he's using, having "finally mastered" it. Makes me think since their last brief encounter that Black traveled elsewhere with his snazzy ring and trained to achieve SSJ Rose, then returned.

**Jinn** · 2016-09-01 14:38

Maybe someone can clear something up for me, please correct me on anything that I may have incorrect.

So... Why is U10 Kais even messing with anything in U7? More so, how are they even there to begin with? Don't you need those dimension hoping cubes or the powers of whatever race/class Whis/Vados are?

I know Zamasu doesn't like "Earthlings" (this term being used loosely to describe anything that isn't a God or Kai.) I'm just confused why this is happening under his apparent supervision in an alternate timeline of U7.

And Another thing... Why do the U10 Kais have this magic box of time rings that were created by goofy earthlings in U7 time traveling antics? This would have all made so much more sense if they had "Future" trunks dimension hoping between U6/7 and creating copy universes instead of timelines and everything was going screwy because five additional Universe 7's or 6's were created.

I cannot comprehend this anymore, someone please help.

I know it's just loldbz but I cannot focus on work at the moment because of make believe timelines and universes.

**Tyrath** · 2016-09-01 14:44

I feel like some of y'all are asking for answers before the show has even provided their version of anything.

How can we answer those questions when the show hasn't really shown how any of it has happened? It may be full of holes but at least let the show get an explanation out first.

**Jinn** · 2016-09-01 14:56

Fair enough, is everyone more or less in teh same train of thought then?

**Dantrag** · 2016-09-01 15:13

I think we're all just irritated Vegeta got the boot so damn fast lmao.

**theshun** · 2016-09-01 20:57

Black = Ginyu. BEST. STORY. EVER.

**Xno Kappa** · 2016-09-01 21:00

Originally Posted by theshun

Black = Ginyu. BEST. STORY. EVER.

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