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    Christ, Florida State/Jimbo. Reign in your players. Same to be said about Alabama too.

    Least there hasn't been anything super major about Auburn outside of paying players and doing a lotta weed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvin View Post
    Girls wanna be treated as equal to men? Ok. Goes both ways.
    Kinda surprised the prosecution released the video because, and maybe I'm in the minority, I don't think it helps their case. I mean, yes, there's the outrage of seeing him punch her in the face, but that voice was there from the start. Now, there's also a voice saying she should be charged with battery(?) and that he can make an argument for self-defense.

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    Under Section 776.012, Florida Statutes, a person is justified in the use of non-deadly force in self-defense where the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against such other’s imminent use of unlawful force. There is no duty to retreat.

    That being the law, here are the jury instructions on self-defense:
    3.6(g) JUSTIFIABLE USE OF NON-DEADLY FORCE
    Because there are many defenses applicable to self-defense, give only those parts of the instructions that are required by the evidence.

    Read in all cases.

    An issue in this case is whether the defendant acted in self-defense. It is a defense to the offense with which (defendant) is charged if the [death of] [injury to] (victim) resulted from the justifiable use of non-deadly force.

    Definition.

    “Non-deadly” force means force not likely to cause death or great bodily harm.

    In defense of person. § 776.012, Fla. Stat. Give if applicable.
    (Defendant) would be justified in using non-deadly force against (victim) if the following two facts are proved:

    1. (Defendant) must have reasonably believed that such conduct was necessary to defend [himself] [herself] [another] against (victim’s) imminent use of unlawful force against the [defendant] [another person].

    2. The use of unlawful force by (victim) must have appeared to (defendant) to be ready to take place.


    Beyond that, however, I find it interesting the responses to this story that were running a week prior to the stories of JPP and the Bucs CB. A week ago, it was about how he shouldn't have fought back, he should know he's a scholarship athlete, etc. Now, the discussion is about how people who make their living using their bodies need to not be so reckless and do w/e it takes to protect their bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Christ, Florida State/Jimbo. Reign in your players. Same to be said about Alabama too.

    Least there hasn't been anything super major about Auburn outside of paying players and doing a lotta weed?
    We only had 1 actually face charges. The other 2 had their charges dropped. Auburn had those 2 that got caught for burglary this spring, no?

    @Serra: I don't see any jury believing a college qb would need to use self-defense against that woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Christ, Florida State/Jimbo. Reign in your players. Same to be said about Alabama too.

    Least there hasn't been anything super major about Auburn outside of paying players and doing a lotta weed?
    Supposedly Jimbo called a meeting with entire team today and laid down the law so to speak. Among other things, all players are banned from bars/clubs, and Jimbo and university president John Thrasher are arranging to have former NFL players, alumni, law enforcement, financial planners etc. to meet with players and to explain the financial and professional consequences of stupid decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anoat View Post
    all players are banned from bars/clubs.
    ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNH View Post
    We only had 1 actually face charges. The other 2 had their charges dropped. Auburn had those 2 that got caught for burglary this spring, no?

    @Serra: I don't see any jury believing a college qb would need to use self-defense against that woman.
    Didn't Saban kick a few Bama boys off the team? I get so lost in the offseason, but yeah, if AU had a couple get caught on burglary charges, then RIP there too

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    Only need to convince one person on a jury, and the law never says anything about the extent of the force (nothing about causing injury or anything like that).

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    Eh, these are both misdemeanor battery charges. Florida law for a misdemeanor battery is a max 1 year jail or probation and a $1000 fine. I'd be surprised if either of these went to a jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Didn't Saban kick a few Bama boys off the team? I get so lost in the offseason, but yeah, if AU had a couple get caught on burglary charges, then RIP there too
    The transfer from UGA got the boot, then the next day the charges were dropped.

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    An attorney for Florida State Seminoles running back Dalvin Cook told ESPN on Monday night that the player did not hit a woman last month and that battery charges are a result of pressure in Tallahassee based on recent high-profile cases in the media.
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...-attorney-says

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    Yeah just saw that. Cook's attorney says he will not be accepting any plea deal and he wants to clear his name by getting the charges dropped or a not guilty verdict, so it sounds like this one could be going to trial after all. Or it could just be pre-trial lawyer posturing, which also seems likely.

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    SEC Media Days, Auburn was voted to win the SEC Championship...but Alabama was voted to win the Western Division. wat.

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    A federal judge approved a $60 million settlement for college athletes in a class-action lawsuit filed against the NCAA and video-game maker Electronics Arts.

    The plaintiffs in the case against the NCAA and EA claimed they illegally used college football and basketball players' names and likenesses in video games for years. Players who have appeared in EA's NCAA football and basketball games have until July 31 to make a claim as part of the settlement.
    http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3478...b7a6216dfb88df

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    Labor Day weekend in 2017 is gonna be a wild weekend in Atlanta. In addition to FSU/Alabama on Saturday night, Monday night will feature Tennessee/Georgia Tech. Both games played in the Falcons' new stadium. This brings the total number of teams that get to play in that stadium before the Falcons do to four.

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    ACC Media Days...somebody let something slip into the official media guide... http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/...ia-guide-curse

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    Braxton Miller has told Sports Illustrated that he is switching to an H-Back. He *could* play QB in certain packages but he will mostly line up as a WR and also do punt returns.

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    Bama to open 2018 against lolouisville

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