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  1. #161
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    Dancing Edge was excluded in the final update version notes for potency boost, as they did with Chant and Exen. Same thing in JP notes, except they have Blade: Ten under potency boost in addition.

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    In all of this research... where has Motenten disappeared to? Haven't seen the guy in quite some time.

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    So are 1hander back on top or is it just dagger that got a big boost ? Not playing atm but dual wield axe war would be fun if it's good now

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    Mostly just dagger, i tried playing around with single wield axe hoping the ws update and fencer would be silly damage, but its underwhelming.

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    swords dont look bad either

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    Yeah axe didn't really get much. If you were going to dual wield war swd would probably be the way to go. Vorpal isn't to far behind cdc now even after the cdc boost

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    Single wield axe war (with fencer) isnt bad with mistral axe.....its quite strong around 150 (making it 200 with fencer)

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    quick strike that, savage blade (with fencer) prob ideal for war

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    Has Mistrals ftp been found yet? Also would fencers crit rate and I guess the ability to ws at 150 instead of 175 (assuming 200 isn't the ideal tp to ws at) outweigh the extra hit and tp gain from dual wielding?

    And idk assuming no extra hits savage blade assuming you save single wield and only ws at 1500 is ~11.25 ftp and better stat mods vorpal dual wielding at 1000 would be 7.875 (except on days you can take advantage of Gavialis helm or brazen rush to ensure multihits) plus crits. SB would have about 50% more ftp but require you save 50% more tp. So guess it's stat mods well and better chaining elements and less ws delay crits and greater increases from things like DA/TA/QA and +ftp

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    Ok so stuff not tested yet is
    Calamity
    Mistral Axe
    Blade: Ten
    Judgement
    black Halo
    Mystic Boon
    Randgrith


    Stuff tested but not in OP though I think some or all of it is in bgwiki now
    Expiacion
    Savage Blade
    Vorpal Blade
    Mandalic Stab
    Mercy Stroke
    Blade: Ku
    Blade: Kamu

  11. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Has Mistrals ftp been found yet? Also would fencers crit rate and I guess the ability to ws at 150 instead of 175 (assuming 200 isn't the ideal tp to ws at) outweigh the extra hit and tp gain from dual wielding?

    And idk assuming no extra hits savage blade assuming you save single wield and only ws at 1500 is ~11.25 ftp and better stat mods vorpal dual wielding at 1000 would be 7.875 (except on days you can take advantage of Gavialis helm or brazen rush to ensure multihits) plus crits. SB would have about 50% more ftp but require you save 50% more tp. So guess it's stat mods well and better chaining elements and less ws delay crits and greater increases from things like DA/TA/QA and +ftp
    With Fencer bonus being 500, and gift bonus taking on another 50, then moonshade another 250 after that, you could actually reach that 2000 tp point at about 1200 tp i think.

    Also savagery warcry would be about 700 with Lv.5 merits and enhances af2/reforge, adding the fencer 500(+50 gift), and moonshade 250 would be tp bonus +1500?

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    Oh shit didn't realize war gets so much fencer. Throw on that new smn ward for another 300 and get 2000+ ws as soon as you reach 1000

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    Theres probably a tp bonus cap or something because of how much they hate WAR now days, but i don't know if its all really enough to overcome the tp gain of single wielding an axe or a sword, really want an ilvl ridill .

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    Back in abyssea you were able to get 200% tp bonus and it worked

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    Didnt Martial Knife and Fusetto TP bonus give automatic 300%?

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    Yes as long as the martial knife was in the mainhand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fival View Post
    Theres probably a tp bonus cap or something because of how much they hate WAR now days, but i don't know if its all really enough to overcome the tp gain of single wielding an axe or a sword, really want an ilvl ridill .
    Isn't there an ilevel 115 Sword from Achuka WKR that you can augment with OAT like the Katana and Dagger?
    I mean it's no Ridill of course, but surely it has to be nice put in offhand?

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    Judgment: D15 weapon. 9 fstr. 215 str. 169 mnd. 192 wsc. 216 base dmg w/ sa

    1000: 2301, 2367, 2363, 2360, 2325

    2000: 5901, 5684, 5803, 5754, 5884

    3000: 7904, 7859, 7911, 7576, 7807

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    In all of this research... where has Motenten disappeared to? Haven't seen the guy in quite some time.
    Mote where are you!

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    1000 TP: 3.479~3.551 :: Probably 3.5, but this distribution is strange (weighted towards 3.15 rather than 3.0 as you would expect)
    2000 TP: 8.673~8.772 :: Probably 8.75
    3000 TP: 11.627~11.691 :: This distribution is even more strange for the same reason. I would guess this anchorpoint is actually 12.

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