reading the YT section is what made my dick fall off

[Charismatic]

transcrackerjack

[Charismatic]

transwhitedevil

[Abandon]

I'm not racist but how can some people think god is black

they tend to point out descriptions of jesus like "skin like bronze and hair like sheep's wool" which are usually not white folk qualities

[Abandon]

while im not willing to make the leap and claim he was a nigga, he does have some field qualities

[Rocl]

they tend to point out descriptions of jesus like "skin like bronze and hair like sheep's wool" which are usually not white folk qualities

are you implying people who say that read the bible

[Rhyis.]

Jesus would've been brown tbh

[Day]

jesus is son of god

[Day]

u gaiz are retarded

[Kuya]

Transnigger LOL

Magisterial

[thetruepandagod]

If some faggot can identify as a planet I'm pretty sure you're allowed to be white.

was this a fat joke?

[shepardG]

Eh.

You could make the argument transsexuals have a mental illness. That is certainly an argument some of them make in order to argue that they need medical attention (hormones, surgery). The DSM does say transsexuals suffer from gender dysphoria (feeling ill because their sex does not match the sex they see themselves as). There is a distinction between saying that transsexualism is a disorder and saying gender dysphoria is a disorder. In the latter case, the transsexual ceases to have a disorder once she/he transitions successfully into the desired sex. In the former, the transsexual is always considered disordered even if she/he transitions and is satisfied.

sorrry for serious post

This was very informative.

[shepardG]

was this a fat joke?

panda fix your keyboard, you fucking stroked out on me today i thought i was going to fucking have to call american 911 from a UK cellphone, and that was gonna take like 15 minutes, and you'd be dead.

[thetruepandagod]

Gred has been doin work in the poli section. I feel bad i went insane on him and told him i wasn't giving him a mandau before kicking him.

Grills were manipulating me.

[thetruepandagod]

panda fix your keyboard, you fucking stroked out on me today i thought i was going to fucking have to call american 911 from a UK cellphone, and that was gonna take like 15 minutes, and you'd be dead.

I just had to let my keyboard dry fooligan it's all better now

[thetruepandagod]

This was very informative.

co signed. I'm still a bit confused on the current view of it though. It would be totally "triggering" to ever mention trans as a mental illness outside of a psych clinic right?

[thetruepandagod]

Spoiler: show

[Kuya]

Well, in a clinical setting, they don't say being trans is a disorder, but that trans people suffer from a disorder from not being able to achieve the transition that they want. It's the difference between saying Charlie is disordered and Charlie has a disorder because he lost his job/went to war/had his family murdered.

In real life, most trans people won't tell you that you triggered them by calling them mentally ill. They might shiv you, depending on what kind of trans we're talking about. I doubt most of the trans people involved in these online discussions are the ones out on the street trying to survive.

[thetruepandagod]

So in a clinical setting would they say that being epileptic is a disorder or that a person is suffering from a disorder? Is the difference that one has an identity built around it and to call it a disorder would belittle that construct? I feel like im lost in semantics.

So if they do transition, they clinically cease to have a disorder?

[Kuya]

So in a clinical setting would they say that being epileptic is a disorder or that a person is suffering from a disorder? Is the difference that one has an identity built around it and to call it a disorder would belittle that construct? I feel like im lost in semantics.

So if they do transition, they clinically cease to have a disorder?

In a clinical setting, as part of bed side manner that every health professional has to have training in, it's not considered appropriate to refer to a patient as an epileptic rather than saying that a patient has epilepsy, but you're right. They could be considered the same thing in this example, sans one being more accurate and the other being a shorthand.

But yes, it has to do with the medical establishment's attempts at not treating anything different form the norm as a disorder in of itself unless it causes someone serious social problems. Part of the DSM's criterias are that for something to be considered a disorder, it has to also cause serious disruption in a person's life, such as in work, family and friends. If the disruption ends, the disorder is considered to have subsided.

In that sense, if a transexual transitions successfully and no longer has dysphoria because of it (which can be measured objectively with tests by clinicians), then yes, the transsexual is no longer considered to be suffering from a disorder. You are also correct that transsexual is an identity category, while gender dysphoria is a category for a disorder.

[thetruepandagod]

If the disruption ends, the disorder is considered to have subsided.

In that sense, if a transexual transitions successfully and no longer has dysphoria because of it (which can be measured objectively with tests by clinicians), then yes, the transsexual is no longer considered to be suffering from a disorder.

Is this accurate given studies that show such high rates of suicide and regret among post op trans people? I feel like they are still suffering from an illness and that they still don't feel fully transitioned and since they have exhausted all current avenues open to them it will most likely be a pretty big blow to them. Or is it just because even though they personally may feel like they are now the sex they wanted to be it isn't reinforced by the outside world?

And if being able to fully feel comfortable as a trans person requires every person in your daily life to "play along" with your assumed identity does this mean that it is essentially impossible to ever fully heal a trans person in this day and age?

http://waltheyer.typepad.com/blog/20...ot-adjust.html

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...h.mentalhealth

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0016885