Patch 2.5 Part 1 release date Jan 20 2015

**Niiro** · 2015-01-12 12:46

For the purposes of discussing actual content, it's 4 boss fights.

**Rocl** · 2015-01-12 12:48

If that's what this game calls a raid, it's a raid.

**Shenrien** · 2015-01-12 12:54

It's 2 maybe 3 trash funnels with a boss at the end, and then an arena where they just said fuck it we're out of ideas of how to be creative here just fight the boss and get it over with.

**Rocl** · 2015-01-12 12:59

Everything is trash funnels.

**solracht** · 2015-01-12 12:59

guys please stop referring to my character as toon, im so triggered

**Niiro** · 2015-01-12 13:00

Originally Posted by Rocl

If that's what this game calls a raid, it's a raid.

Well shit then all they need to do is move all the guildhests to the Raid tab in the DF and we'll surely be inundated with raid content!

**Rocl** · 2015-01-12 13:00

Originally Posted by Niiro

Well shit then all they need to do is move all the guildhests to the Raid tab in the DF and we'll surely be inundated with raid content!

Guildhest are actually just Trials.

**Niiro** · 2015-01-12 13:03

Trials are actually just tests.

**Rocl** · 2015-01-12 13:03

Here's a leaked photo of Coil 4

Spoiler: show

**Shenrien** · 2015-01-12 13:32

Originally Posted by Rocl

Here's a leaked photo of Coil 4

Spoiler: show

If that were in XIV that would have at least 4 zone lines in it, because reasons.

**Elcura** · 2015-01-12 13:54

Originally Posted by Niiro

Can we stop referring to coil as a "raid".

It's 4 boss fights.

Oh I forgot that in actual "raids" that fighting trash and things that aren't bosses is the goal. But again, if you want to be obtuse then go ahead because clearly you have a talent for it.

**ronin sparthos** · 2015-01-12 14:19

Originally Posted by Elcura

Oh I forgot that in actual "raids" that fighting trash and things that aren't bosses is the goal. But again, if you want to be obtuse then go ahead because clearly you have a talent for it.

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Kidding, kidding.

**Lokus** · 2015-01-12 15:39

Oh hey, I know 90% of the dead bodies in that picture.

Niiro does have a point and he doesn't at the same time. FFXIVs raids are boss fights for the most part, no multiple pathways, objectives, optional side bosses, or extended dungeon crawling. Hell, t12 & t13 are simply primal fights. When someone says raid, I imagine something on a bigger scale. But this is the fault of Coil being broken up into bitesize chunks and it's really a perception issue. If we we had to do the entirety of Coil in one sitting, it'd feel like a raid (and then you'd have people bitching about that too).

**Shenrien** · 2015-01-12 15:44

Raids in XIV for the most part are just glorified primal encounters.

**Kaslo** · 2015-01-12 15:45

Originally Posted by Shenrien

Raids in XIV for the most part are just glorified primal encounters.

Which are just glorified dungeon bosses.

**Kaslo** · 2015-01-12 15:46

Originally Posted by Kaslo

Which are just glorified dungeon bosses.

which are just glorified guildhests

**Kaslo** · 2015-01-12 15:46

Originally Posted by Kaslo

which are just glorified guildhests

which are just glorified open world mobs

**Rocl** · 2015-01-12 15:47

which are just glorified training dummies ?

**Elcura** · 2015-01-12 16:07

Originally Posted by Rocl

which are just glorified training dummies ?

Every fight is a training dummy with extra features.

**Vaspinne** · 2015-01-12 16:12

"FFXIV Heavensward: We've taken our training dummies and added a "winged dragon" feature!"

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