Teen kills herself, parents are terrible (Transgender thread)

[NynJa]

So, I am aware that this was said earlier in the thread and that everyone basically agreed, but that doesn't make it true.

You must be the expert here.

[Stumblingdrunk]

I approached a woman in a park, in a bar, in a bistro, or a bookstore, and made it clear that my intentions where to have an intimate relationship with them and they reciprocated, and after a couple dates they explained that they were born with male genitalia, I'm not going to be a shit fuck about it.

That was pretty much what i wanted to know, If you are demanding that they disclose, at what point are you making that demand. I assure you that trans women know the risks, they are not going to surprise you with a penis.

[hey]

1-As has been established earlier in this thread, unless the hormonal treatment is caught at an early stage, there are some masculinity traits that get set in stone, so to speak. Being in a dimly lit room helps conceal these traits, and being inebriated will prevent the guy from noticing these traits as well. I'm sure you've heard of "Beer goggles"?

Those traits are all subtle enough that you'd generally have a hard time noticing, unless they're super pronounced. It is not as hard as a lot of people seem to think for trans people to look close enough to their preferred gender that almost no one notices they aren't cis. It really depends on the person though.

[Stumblingdrunk]

You must be the expert here.

yes, pointing out that something a bunch of people agreed upon is not a fact, is indeed asserting that I am an expert. That is exactly what i did.

[Kuya]

A transgender individual died because of rejection from her own parents and we're discussing getting dicked by a trans woman?

[Xantavia]

But I think this is where the hangup comes from for most people. The lack of a particular set of genitals.

I would have to say that for me, the genitals are only part of the equation. Do I find it appealing to watch a guy getting himself off? No, it's too masculine for myself. The porn actor Buck Angel does nothing for me, even though he has a vagina. And yet my porn folder shows that I have absolutely no problem with solo play of a woman who happens to have a penis. I suppose there is the safety factor of it being strictly visual and no actual contact with the person. In a real life situation if I was going out with a woman who told me she was transgender, I'm not sure what I would do. Wouldn't be outright denial or acceptance, but I would have to think long and hard about my answer.

And honestly, some of that would have to be thinking how my family would react to it. Nothing on the level of stress a gay or trans person has to deal with coming out to their family, but the fear would still be there that they would treat me like a freak for wanting to be with somebody like that.

[Priran]

blur lines

[BaneTheBrawler]

A transgender individual died because of rejection from her own parents and we're discussing getting dicked by a trans woman?

yeah guys, quit dicking around.


no but seriously, this has been an interesting discussion (as they usually are when we discuss transgendered stuff) and it is somewhat related to Leelah's death. It touches on the sort of things Leelah would have had to deal with, etc. So I think it fits. This will likely eventually become our "transgender" thread, the same way Anita's videos formed the Feminism thread. So while this is clearly a sub-topic discussion, I'm not going to stop it at this point.

[Aksannyi]

And honestly, some of that would have to be thinking how my family would react to it. Nothing on the level of stress a gay or trans person has to deal with coming out to their family, but the fear would still be there that they would treat me like a freak for wanting to be with somebody like that.

If this were me, I wouldn't treat it like it was my family's business. I've had a good number of boyfriends in the past, and none of them particularly need to share their entire life story with my family, nor do they owe it to them. Obviously if I were dating a trans man and he wanted to share that with my family that'd be on him and I wouldn't stop him from it, but if my family started to ask me or talk to me about sex, I'd tell them to shut the fuck up and mind their own business, basically the same as I would if they'd ever started talking to me about sex.

[Titanss]

BG is extreme atheistic in their world view.

wow sandra. Disappointing in the thread as far as the choose and pick moderation, just ban these fucking idiots immediately from the section from now on. Interesting thoughts from everyone here, who knew y'all cared so much?

[NynJa]

The only one who got moderated was the one who dropped every ethnic slur lol

[Titanss]

I was just skimming really. Interesting thoughts from everyone and it always will continue to make me laugh when people try to argue issues like this, politics, and religion. Motherfuckers should instead argue at a brick wall.

[Ksandra]

wow sandra. Disappointing in the thread as far as the choose and pick moderation, just ban these fucking idiots immediately from the section from now on. Interesting thoughts from everyone here, who knew y'all cared so much?

Wat

[Priran]

The only one who got moderated was the one who dropped every ethnic slur lol

cough

[hey]

I was just skimming really. Interesting thoughts from everyone and it always will continue to make me laugh when people try to argue issues like this, politics, and religion. Motherfuckers should instead argue at a brick wall.

Why? It seems like most people have been willing to listen here.

[Titanss]

Wat

..just grouping bg as extremely atheistic. feel me?

[Titanss]

Why? It seems like most people have been willing to listen here.

Just pointing out the people arguing. Most discussions were good.

[BaneTheBrawler]

As I said, I stand behind the modding action taken in this thread. If you don't like it, complain to me in PMs if you really think you need to. Or in that thread announcing my modding, if you think it should be public.

This thread, however, is not the place for it.

[Ksandra]

..just grouping bg as extremely atheistic. feel me?

Is being an atheist a negative thing to you?

[Guitarman]

Funeral being moved because of "threats"

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...hreats-n278541