French Magazine "Charlie Hebdo" offices attacked by gunmen

[Gredival]

Christians commit terrorism to alert the public that the welfare of the state is being undermined. Muslims commit terrorism to undermine the welfare of the state.

I fail to see how terrorist attacks stemming from outrage regarding something perceived as anti-Christian elements (abortion clinics, etc.) is difference from terrorist attacks stemming from outrage regarding perceived as anti-Muslim.

[test123]

McVeigh reacted to the Waco siege as an attack on civil rights. So he wanted to point this out with a terror attack. That is different from the "muslims want sharia law" terrorism.

[chazzyphizzle]

lol

[Gredival]

McVeigh reacted to the Waco siege as an attack on civil rights. So he wanted to point this out with a terror attack. That is different from the "muslims want sharia law" terrorism.

Which boils down to a Christian extremist lashing out because something violated their vision of how the law of the land was supposed to be... just like Muslim extremists. And we can even set McVeigh aside -- your original comment was Christian terrorists, not McVeigh specifically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ab...#United_States

[Qalbert]

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/...ice-state.html

After the mandatory shots at Obama and de Blasio, Giuliani proceeded to pat himself on the back regarding his lifelong work on stopping radical Islamic terrorism (except, of course, on 9/11). He then used the Charlie Hebdo tragedy to make the point that the United States needs to demand that police surveillance units be present at all times in places of worship, specifically Muslim mosques and other gathering places. Giuliani claimed that Christian priests and Jewish rabbis have no issues with police officers and agents. Therefore, Muslims should welcome constant police surveillance.

[Mazmaz]

Speaking of Christian terrorists, did anyone even report on the Christian guy in Israel that was going to bomb a bunch of mosques few weeks back?

[Mazmaz]

France can't catch a break. Double hostage crises. Two gunmen from Hebdo shooting have a hostage in north-east France. Another gunman has taken 5 people hostage in a kosher supermarket (?) and has apparently killed 2 more. Supposedly the two are connected.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30740115

[BaneTheBrawler]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[notorious bum]

This wasn't the news I wanted to wake up to. Their 15mins of fame just reached movie-status.

[notorious bum]

Looks like the gunmen are dead, all hostages seem to be saved. Can't get a confirmation on that atm. Also, the previous reports of them not being very religious and their habits told a different story, here is an updated one with the story told by their neighbor: Neighbour says suspects in Paris shooting had ‘cache of arms’

[Pendas]

^ One second too late.

[Melena]

Well they got to die like they allegedly wanted to. It was obvious that they were never going to be brought in alive.

[The Stig]

I wonder where that explosion came from, I guess one of the guys carrying a RPG launcher set it off? I can't imagine the police/special forces to ever use such a tactic in a civilian building

[TummieGaruda]

I am hearing reports that three hostages died but everything seems a bit sketchy at the moment.

[vagus]

Ah fuck. French police going in hardcore. Should be interesting next few months as more details leak out.

Feel sad for legit Muslims. Not a good time right now. The hate and fear is high.

[6souls]

I am hearing reports that three hostages died but everything seems a bit sketchy at the moment.

4 hostages

In the second incident, anti-terror forces stormed a supermarket in eastern Paris where several hostages were being held by a gunman.

Four hostages there were killed prior to the police assault, reports say.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30752239

Two more suspects named

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...e863efb698.jpg

[test123]

Feel sad for legit Muslims.

as in legitimate rape

[Brill Weave]

as in legitimate rape

How does this in any way shape or form contribute to this particular discussion? Knock it off. One and only warning.

[Lucavi]

France didn't fuck around this time. Snipers on rooftops, killed the two brothers the second they came bursting out of that shop with guns blazing. Witness account of one of the two brothers saying "We don't kill civilians" while inside the building. Either bullshit or everyone they've killed was an actual target (comic artists/associates/staff, police, ect.).

3 Dead. Now find the chick and axe her as well.

[Priran]

How does this in any way shape or form contribute to this particular discussion? Knock it off. One and only warning.

How does the "no true scotsman" escape hatch pertain to discussions of Muslim terrorists? u ok?