Education Reform Thread

[kuronosan]

Oh Jesus Christ stfu

I won't take orders from someone who is flipping out that we didn't rush a vaccine in February.

[archibaldcrane]

Not many opportunities in life to save tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of people

But hey

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[Ksandra]

I won't take orders from someone who is flipping out that we didn't rush a vaccine in February.

What in the world....

Wherever the doctor's principal's office is, you need to go there.

[Cantih]

Y'all are grilling Ksan for one half of what she brought up.

But the fact remains, the SecEd still is a covid downplaying, open up the schools it'll be fine, headass motherfucker.
That a pfgd serious disqualification.

[Salodin]

Maybe he means open them up with proper precautions and contact tracing

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[NynJa]

Would need a quote of what he said, cause all we have is Ksan's re-wording. From what she shortened it too, it was a very far cry from "proper precautions and contract tracing", he sounds like an all-out covid denier.

[archibaldcrane]

He was the state education commissioner of Connecticut, which went full remote learning in mid-March. His desire to have kids in person in classrooms is because the evidence is overwhelming that remote learning is harming kids' educations, especially those from disadvantaged households, and he wasn't seeing evidence of schools being transmission vectors for the classrooms in his state that are offering in person instruction this fall.

[Ksandra]

which went full remote learning in mid-March.

I dunno where you are getting your info, but all the CT teachers I know have done in-class/hybrid teaching this school year.

[archibaldcrane]

Was March this school year?

[Ksandra]

Was March this school year?

I mean going full distance for a couple weeks isn't really noteworthy. They didn't do it for the full spring. Most were back in school by mid April.

[NynJa]

Archi: They had the vaccine in February, this pandemic could have been avoided
Also Archi: Its important we send all the kids to school, we must pack all the schools with germy kids and teenagers.

[archibaldcrane]

My position isn't that all schools should be in person, it's that policies should prioritize keeping schools open over other activities as conditions allow. This stuff where schools are closed but malls and restaurants and bars are open is unacceptable.

[Milkster]

This is marvelous to watch.

Anyway this was the closest thing to what Ksan said he said

https://ctmirror.org/2020/12/21/as-b...reopening/amp/

Although Cardona has repeatedly said he believes all the state’s K-12 schools should reopen, he has so far resisted calls to order superintendents to hold in-person classes. Instead, his department has issued a plethora of guidance for district leaders to follow so they can open their doors, and used federal pandemic aid to buy masks, plexiglass, and other protective equipment schools need to open safely. The administration has also allocated federal funds to purchase laptops and internet access so that every student has the ability to learn from home.

Cardona has also used the public spotlight to call out the “education emergency” school closures are causing, releasing data that shows the state’s most disadvantaged students are missing twice as much remote school as their peers attending in-person and only 4% of the students attending the state’s 10 lowest-performing districts are being offered the opportunity to attend in-person learning full time. The administration has also tracked COVID-19 cases in districts throughout the state, which Cardona regularly points to as proof that the virus is not spreading in schools.

Closing schools alone would not reduce the mitigation strategies, would not reduce the transmission risk in other places,” Cardona said during an interview in November, adding that transmission might even worsen if thousands of kids are at home or in the community. “In school, we know that students have their mitigation strategies, like distancing and facial coverings. There’s no way to ensure that’s happening outside of school when they’re not with us… What we’re learning… it’s families in already challenged communities that are under-resourced, that need more support. So by doing these things, we’re not only bringing the issue up, we’re using that to guide whatever resources we distribute.”

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-...zha-story.html

Cardona and Lamont have made it a priority to keep schools open for in-person learning amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. They have said there is little evidence of COVID-19 transmission within schools and that there are numerous social, emotional and educational benefits to in-person classes as opposed to online learning.

“In-person education is too important for our children to disrupt their education further, unless and until local conditions specifically dictate the need to do so,” Cardona and acting public health Commissioner Deidre Gifford wrote in a letter to school superintendents last month.

[Zealot]

Damn looks like he had reasoning for his stance that was rooted in the needs of the student and also layers of nuance attached to strong wielding of his administrative powers, I agree this guy must have been a terrible teacher and couldn't hack it.

[Ksandra]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cretary-449808

Slightly different take:

About 70 percent of the state’s schools reopened for in-person classes this fall. But when some Connecticut schools decided to shut down in-person learning in November, Cardona and the state’s acting Department of Health commissioner wrote in an email to districts that they did not think “arbitrary, date-based closures of school are warranted at this time.”

The state health and education chiefs said the prevention strategies schools are using are working, and the state wasn’t seeing “sustained person to person transmission” of the virus in schools, or outbreaks at schools, despite a surge in the state. That put Cardona at odds with the state teachers union, although decisions about remote or in-person classes have been left to local districts.

Cardona also has said the state plans to carry on with statewide testing later in the school year. The pandemic led to federal waivers for all states on testing last spring, but DeVos has held firm that testing should proceed for the current school year, and Cardona’s position in Connecticut could translate to the rest of the country if confirmed

[Tomiko]

[edit] before any "actually" dept of ed could effect doctors on college costs. But won't effect doctors teaching anyone, unless they are teaching said college class. But this is not what I am focusing on.

*affect

I don't know shit about the guy or his plans, but that was bothering me enough to respond since this is the education thread.

[kuronosan]

I mean, the whole point is that "can't hack it after 3 years" is not why people quit jobs. It also doesn't mean they weren't qualified.

Plenty of professions have people in them who are qualified and then don't end up doing it because of systemic bullshit. Are there people who are garbage tier that go on despite being garbage? Yea. Some of them, like DeVos, end up being put in pretty influential positions.

I think we're judging this pick a little too harshly. It's as bad as people I know saying Trump is better than Biden because Kamala is a cop and Biden is why we're poor. It's an opinion, sure, but in mine is a pretty bad take.

[Salodin]

I just think it's wild how ksan sees 3 years teaching and thinks they just sucked as a teacher and is a red flag, but when I see a decade in only teaching and think "wow they have no higher goals? Can't cut it in leadership roles? No admin skills to help their school after being there for a decade? All you do is hang out with the kids all day?"

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[Roranora]

we didn't have this many posts on DeVos in 4 years

[Byrthnoth]

The liberals eat their own