Feminist Philosophy

[Jefe]

I don't think there's a human being on God's green earth that would make that proclamation w/ a straight face or w/o fear of equivocation.

[Salodin]

And yet, the report would label that as rape because the man was "telling you lies, making promises about the future they knew were untrue". However, that's the nature of the game; if a man has no sympathy for the woman after the fact, then he will say whatever magic words he needs to to get you to consent to the hanky panky. This isn't some secret, every one mature enough to make an educated decision about their sexual partner knows this, and the scientists who put the report together willingly ignored it; yes maz, that's bad science.

[Andalusian girls]

where does the CDC report make that claim? not being argumentative genuinely curious, first time looking at the report

i guess in the sexual coercion section?

[Koul]

Am I raped everytime a guy asks if I want to come cuddle but then it leads to us fucking? If so, I've been raped like 60 times.

[Salodin]

where does the CDC report make that claim? not being argumentative genuinely curious, first time looking at the report

i guess in the sexual coercion section?

Yes.

Am I raped everytime a guy asks if I want to come cuddle but then it leads to us fucking? If so, I've been raped like 60 times.

Fucking lol

[NynJa]

If I tell a girl I'm a millionaire, and I'll take her on a cruise if she lets me fuck her in the back of my honda, that I drive to not draw attention to my wealth, is that rape too?

[Salodin]

No, but if she reported you for rape she'd win. And the sjw would justify it because you're a morally terrible person.

[Aksannyi]

You already know how I'm going to answer that question. Why do you continue to ask?

According to this study, it apparently is. I disagree with that. I have made my point at least a few times in the last few pages, now you're just posting repeatedly to be a pain. What exactly are you trying to prove? That you're incapable of understanding a simple post? Congrats, mission accomplished. You're adding absolutely nothing new to the discussion. Are you really that butthurt about this? Is it because you're the kind of shitty guy who lies to a woman to get in her pants? Maybe you should, you know, stop doing that. I am not the type of person who would cry rape about it, but it's a fucking disgusting tactic and maybe you could try sincerity for once. You know, something that's actually attractive to women.

[Salodin]

You're doing it again.

He continues to make the comparisons because it's important to the topic. What is/should be considered rape is an important topic, one we've covered before but never came to a consensus on. Well, we did, but mazmaz, hey, and archi went full sjw iirc and considered some questionable things as rape.

And once again here we are discussing how skewed certain data is because certain scientists consider morally questionable activities as rape. So yeah, I think it's relevant.

[Aksannyi]

I don't think he needs to necessarily make up scenarios to essentially ask the same question he already asked, though. I already illustrated that I disagree with the logic of the study, at least on that point. Now if he'd care to make a rebuttal to what I've actually said, perhaps on the issue of the condoms, then I'll be glad to respond, but I really don't know what he is attempting to prove by creating scenario after scenario and asking what does and doesn't qualify as rape. I already answered that.

[NynJa]

No, but if she reported you for rape she'd win. And the sjw would justify it because you're a morally terrible person.

This part hasnt happened yet. No one has been convicted of rape for "false coercion", other than in the court of the social justice, which thank the fuck god, is not a real court.

Are you really that butthurt about this? Is it because you're the kind of shitty guy who lies to a woman to get in her pants? Maybe you should, you know, stop doing that. I am not the type of person who would cry rape about it, but it's a fucking disgusting tactic and maybe you could try sincerity for once. You know, something that's actually attractive to women.

I guess you could say I'm butthurt because now you've got femnazis who are going to pitch this to the world, and the whiteknight SJW's like maz will say "this is how it goes now, this is rape".
What goes on in my personal life is irrelevant, but I can assure you I'm "not the kind of shitty guy who lies to a woman to get in her pants". Sometimes I wish I did though, I'd probably be a lot happier. But unlike certain other people, I dont scapegoat my flaws as a not-outgoing male to castrate those who are outgoing, and call them "disgusting misogynist pigs".

I'm not sure I call that rape, honestly, if it was consensual in most cases I would not call that rape, unless something occurred like a man said he was putting on a condom and then did not, which would expose a woman to unnecessary risk of pregnancy or STIs. If your consent was conditional based on wearing a rubber, then yes, I would argue that a man who said he was wearing one and then did not is a rapist.

I cant argue this because this action of a guy not putting on a condom put that woman's health at risk. My only argument is that you are once again comparing apples to oranges. Some guy lying about his financial status to get a girl to sleep with him or some other dumbass coercion towards the girls intellect is not putting her health at risk.

[Salodin]

She'd cry rape rape, not false coercion rape.

[NynJa]

She'd cry rape rape, not false coercion rape.

No, I mean, has anyone been given a jail sentence for this? As far as I know, it hasnt happened.

who am I kidding lol, no one ever gets arrested for rape, right? ^_________________^

[Aksannyi]

I cant argue this because this action of a guy not putting on a condom put that woman's health at risk. My only argument is that you are once again comparing apples to oranges. Some guy lying about his financial status to get a girl to sleep with him or some other dumbass coercion towards the girls intellect is not putting her health at risk.

Fair enough. I think the only reason I even brought this up is because it is one of the only cases that I can think of where deliberate deception by a male during what would have otherwise been consensual sex would actually constitute as rape. Since the debate is about the issue of false pretenses and it being counted as rape, I felt it was necessary to at least bring that one up. For the most part, guys lying is just shitty but not rape.

[Charismatic]

you could try sincerity for once. You know, something that's actually attractive to women.

lol

[Mazmaz]

Congratulations Aksannyi. You acknowledged Nynja and now we're talking relationship advice instead of rape statistics. I HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT HE DOES NOT READ ANYTHING ANYONE POSTS AND SHOULD BE UTTERLY IGNORED. Jesus fucking christ this site.

[Aksannyi]

You are welcome to put me on ignore if you don't like what I have to say or who I respond to.

You are not in charge of who I speak to on this website or anywhere else, and to even suggest that you have any sway in my dealings online or otherwise is just as misogynistic as the people you claim to be against. I reserve full autonomy to post however and in response to whomever I damn well please. If you don't like it, that is too fucking bad for you.

[Teryu]

God forbid women think on their own.

[NynJa]

I feel like i should dorito maz for that. Theres no reason to attack me or aks there, not to mention his very misogynistic point of view there.

[Thunder]

Congratulations Aksannyi. You acknowledged Nynja and now we're talking relationship advice instead of rape statistics. I HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT HE DOES NOT READ ANYTHING ANYONE POSTS AND SHOULD BE UTTERLY IGNORED. Jesus fucking christ this site.

Yeah.. you'll do great in the public sphere with an attitude like that...

If you want the subject to remain on rape statistics, continue the convo. Don't just drop the info, give a sarcastic reply to Nynja (the guy who you don't want anyone talking to, ironically), peace out, and then get upset the conversation isn't where you want it to be

I think I remain pretty level headed despite the vitriol - you can continue the convo with me maz, I don't hate you