Feminist Philosophy

[NynJa]

"I had dreadlocks to stick it to the patriarchy, but when i realized the patriarchy didnt give a fuck, i cut them off"

Is that the cliffnotes version of the article? Cause thats what i got from it.

[Churchill]

I laughed when they admitted "dreadlocks" weren't tied to a specific culture, then said fuck it yes they are.

[Koul]

"I had dreadlocks to stick it to the patriarchy, but when i realized the patriarchy didnt give a fuck, i cut them off"

Is that the cliffnotes version of the article? Cause thats what i got from it.

Partially. The other part is "only blacks can have dreadlocks in america because blahblah insenstive cultural appropriation. blahblah white privilege. blah white guilt"

and if a black person says it's okay for whites to have dreadlocks they are obviously ignorant and a coon.

[thetruepandagod]

Partially. The other part is "only blacks can have dreadlocks in america because blahblah insenstive cultural appropriation. blahblah white privilege. blah white guilt"

and if a black person says it's okay for whites to have dreadlocks they are obviously ignorant and a coon.

WHEN WILL CULTURAL APPROPRIATION STOP !!!

[Koul]

No. You see nowadays it's socially acceptable for blacks to have y'know "unnatural" hair. So when black woman get weaves or dye their hair blonde, they aren't appropriating white culture because they're still a minority and whites don't have a culture, they just steal from everyone else. Therefore it's absolutely 100-bajillion-manillion percent impossible for them to appropriate any other culture. Blacks, that is. Or any race except white people.

it's like the mythical reverse racism thing. Or like saying "men can be raped too" or something. It just can NOT happen. At all. I know it might be hard for cis scum to understand (this isn't an insult nor is it a pejorative either so you CAN'T take offense to it)

Remember, listen and believe. Or die.^.^

and I guess I need to ruin it and say I'm trolling. But from my shitty research, I think I hit all the "rebuttals"

[Xantavia]

Time to stir up some shit. 18-things-females-seem-to-not-understand-because-female-privilege
I have to agree with some of the things posted there.

2. Female privilege is being able to approach someone and ask them out without being labeled “creepy.”

3. Female privilege is being able to get drunk and have sex without being considered a rapist. Female privilege is being able to engage in the same action as another person but be considered the innocent party by default.

8. Female privilege is never being told to “take it like a man” or “man up.”

18. Female privilege is arrogantly believing that sexism only applies to women.

While it is true that there are some things that benefit men because they are men, the same exists for women. It would be nice to hear these things acknowledged once in awhile.

[Teryu]

Jesus Christ the comments on that page.

[Byrthnoth]

First off, I hate this "privilege" dialogue, because I feel it tries to pass off biological differences as byproducts of unfair society.

Going approximately down the list, the ones I disagree with to some extent:
1) I actually enjoy having people cross the street. I'm a nerdy white guy. How often do I get to be scary?
2 etc.) Points 2, 4, 5, 9, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 18 are either without merit or not problems faced by socially normal males.
6) This doesn't make sense. They probably meant the contrapositive.
7) This doesn't make sense until they fix point 6, but is still misleading because both parents have financial responsibility. If you ignore that part, then the only valid part of it is the fixed version of #6
17) Doesn't really make sense. I frequently feel it is very self serving when women complain about their perceived cases of sexism, most of which are imaginary. If anything, I think the ball rolls the other way. A lot of professional women avoid talking about sexism specifically because it does sound so self serving. We recently had a girl send out an overtly sexist e-mail to my grad student d-list and the one who replied was a male.


The ones I agree with:
So I give them #3 (drunk sex), a fixed version of #6 (being able to decide to have a child), #8 (but man up, ya pussies), #10 (custody priority), #11 (cops like you more), and #12 (you can have feels and be normal). I'm worried that #18 (sexism is only for girls) will some day be true, but at the moment I think those people are still laughed out of the average room regardless of their vitriolic youtube followings.

Of those, #6, #10, #11, and arguably #8/12 are all biologically based.
#6) Men can't give birth. (Source: your mother)
#10) Primate young typically stay with their mothers for years. (Source: Every monkey species ever)
#11) Men are much more violent than women. (Source: Every crime report broken down by gender ever)
#8/12) Women are more empathetic than men, and this difference primarily establishes itself at puberty (so it would be unsurprising if it was biological). (Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19476221 )

#3 is the only one I really have an issue with. STDs go both ways. Pregnancy might be an unwanted result, but in the event that it happens the man actually has more to lose than the woman because he doesn't get a say in whether the kid is aborted or becomes an anchor around his neck. The real reason why society supports this is due to predatory male behavior, which harks back to #11. Still, this opens the door for abuse. We definitely need to decrease the social stigma associated with rape, maximize reporting, etc., but we still shouldn't assume guilt.

[Churchill]

If the man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't, he shouldn't be on the hook for anything that follows.

[NynJa]

If the man wants an abortion and the woman doesn't, he shouldn't be on the hook for anything that follows.

Theres predecent set on this though. Its a vast uphill battle, but not impossible. I knocked up some chick when a condom broke and she tried to coax me into keeping it. I told her that we both know we just wanted to fuck and have no feelings for each other and the right thing to do is get rid of it. I told her i would do whatever is necessary to make sure the right thing is done. She said "lol no, im having it" and I dug up references of court cases where the guy was off the hook of any alimony. Then she dropped an "its against my religion", to which i said "this same religion that calls premarital sex a sin"? I had everything on text too, so its not like she could have changed stories if it went to court. On that one, she gave in.

[Koul]

That's one thing boys/men can start to do. Trust others but keep your bases in check. Just like how people should teach their daughters how to defend themselves against predators, so too, should men.

[Blubbartron]

That's one thing boys/men can start to do. Trust others but keep your bases in check. Just like how people should teach their daughters how to defend themselves against predators, so too, should men.

Isn't that sort of what MRAs are doing, when they're not being called rapists by radical feminists?

[chiyio]

#11) Men are much more violent than women. (Source: Every crime report broken down by gender ever)

Not when it comes to domestic violence. You couldn't be more wrong. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/

[DeadlyWaltz]

So I found out from a friend in my LS called "Manspreading" where a woman is offended by the space of how far apart a man's legs are when he's sitting normally. Didn't think this was a thing until it appeared on the NYC News. What is the world coming to I wonder.

[Zetanio]

I was told to stop manspreading on the subway once. I laughed in her face. At least give it a serious name so I don't immediately bust out laughing. #privilege.

[Churchill]

If I don't manspread I start getting PTSD, except the real kind and not some fabricated response to being ugly.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Not when it comes to domestic violence. You couldn't be more wrong. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/

Men are more violent generally, though, and are more likely to cause serious harm with violence even in domestic situations.

[Charismatic]

That is until people start to actually recognize that proxy violence is a thing... but is BG even ready?

[Churchill]

It's not violence unless there is visible bruising obviously

[Marootsoobutsu]

That is until people start to actually recognize that proxy violence is a thing... but is BG even ready?

By which you mean dudes fighting on a chicks behalf/in her name/because-he-thinks-it's-what-a-chick-wants?