Fire Emblem If/Fates

[Serra]

I mean, I guess it'll make it harder if you ever want to cap all support conversations.. but presumably it only works (worked) between the MC, so you'd have to play a bunch of extra battles regardless.

[Kirin]

I mean I didn't have any problems capping support in any FE to date, including Awakening. Was the petting really that vital to increasing it, was pairing up/standing next to eachother in battle and support conversations made that weak in terms of increasing it?

Yeah, Awakening did have it heavy on the children aspect...but at the core it still wasnt as involved as any other FE that involved parents/children and stats/abilities. It was really more "build a party of galeforce users" than a eugenics simulator when it came down to it.

[Corrderio]

enjoy your censorshit

http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-e...e-in-the-west/

>Not being able to pet waifu.

And now I'm turned off...

[Tokitoki]

So I know if you buy one version of the game from eShop you get a discount for the second version. Is the same true if you buy a digital code from Amazon? I'd like to get that 20% off bonus, but it's not worth it if you don't get the discount on the second game.

[Obsidian]

Pretty sure that discount applies so long as you're buying the second path from within the game menu, whether your original path is digital or physical. You do have to buy your second path from within the game though, not directly through the eShop, I believe.

It also looks like they replaced the face-rubbing with a different mini-game to build Supports.

[Tokitoki]

Pretty sure that discount applies so long as you're buying the second path from within the game menu, whether your original path is digital or physical. You do have to buy your second path from within the game though, not directly through the eShop, I believe.

It also looks like they replaced the face-rubbing with a different mini-game to build Supports.

Ah, okay. I misunderstood I guess. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Charismatic]

lmao
Headpatting removed and everyone's like "its okay to remove features, go for it ninty"
Homosex relationships removed from Italian ver? Everyone loses their shit.

This is why I don't like even giving them an inch.

[Obsidian]

Thought that was confirmed false by a Nintendo Italy rep. The address on the "letter" cited isn't even correct.

[Charismatic]

Its more of the difference in attitude that I'm pointing out. If its fake, that's good. There's no reason to pull any of the content but its also not particularly important to what I was trying to convey.

[Obsidian]

If I had to guess, it's because one is way less politically correct than the other. There's way more pressure to include same-sex couples in entertainment media for the sake of being inclusive than there is to include a pretty weird "minigame" which would probably alienate a lot of people outside of Japan.

[Charismatic]

Headpats alienate people, you heard it here first.

[Karbuncle]

If someone is going to be turned off to a Fire Emblem game because of a one-off (optional?) "Patting someones head" mini game... I don't even have a adequate expression to express my confusion in that matter. But they're fucking idiots.

This is crap... buuuuuut its also par for the course so I cannot get to upset ._.; ... Its just murica being murica(though it happens elsewhere), in a world where you can pull someones skull out through their dick and get a PG rating but if you show Side Boob its censored and/or banned immediately because won't someone think of the Puritans children.

And I'm not trying to say this is some huge take-away from the game either, I stand more on the "It's the principle of the matter" side and less of the "The game is irreversibly ruined" side. I'll still buy it but I can be salty if I want damnit.

[Kincard]

That last sentence is really the main point here- it's true that nobody should really be turned off by a largely superfluous minigame but neither should anyone be turned off by its removal. They probably judged that they'll get more sales by removing things uptight people find uncomfortable than the sales they'll lose from loudmouths on the Internet who will raise a stink but then buy the game anyway.

Headpats alienate people, you heard it here first.

Obnoxious waifu shit turns some people off (otherwise #FE wouldn't be getting all the shit that it is despite being a decent game). I don't know why you're being disingenuous about this.

[Charismatic]

Like who?
Aren't we talking about the same series that was basically headed to its grave until they put waifu stuff in it?

[Obsidian]

Personally would not have touched the head patting thing and would have been embarrassed for anyone seen doing it in public. It's weird shit.

Awakening wasn't the first game to have marriage/children, and that's hardly the reason for Awakening's success. Arguably the biggest contributing factor to its revival is Smash's, and by extension Ike and Marth's, popularity, and the total lack of competition in its genre. The only other franchise out there was Advanced Wars which was also made by Intelligent Systems.

[Karbuncle]

That last sentence is really the main point here - it's true that nobody should really be turned off by a largely superfluous minigame but neither should anyone be turned off by its removal. They probably judged that they'll get more sales by removing things uptight people find uncomfortable than the sales they'll lose from loudmouths on the Internet who will raise a stink but then buy the game anyway.

If wanting a game to be released as originally intended and being against censorship is "Raising a stink" then so be it, I can think of worse values to stand by.

But, I'm buying the game not only because the Fire Emblem series is a well established and great Turned based Strategy series that I've enjoyed since the original on the GBA, but also because me not buying it isn't going to make America suddenly accept sexuality as a fact of life and drop its puritanical bullshit values when it comes to these things... Regardless, I find it incredibly hard to believe there are people out there who are following this game enough to know about the "waifu" shit that are now reserving or buying the game exclusively because it was removed.

I mean its not impossible but I'm sure its equally as likely there are people out there no longer buying the game because of it.

Obnoxious waifu shit

I get what you're saying as I find some of the stuff on the side of extremely uncomfortable, so I've been there, but a single optional head patting mini game is "obnoxious"...?

Personally would not have touched the head patting thing and would have been embarrassed for anyone seen doing it in public. It's weird shit.

I appreciate that answer, which is the correct answer. "I don't like it and its optional so I'll ignore it and enjoy the rest of the game" is wbat i imagine any rational person would do, which is where I go back to, if they're going to not buy the game because of it they're probably dumb. However as I said above i know where you're coming from.

Edit:

To your first point- I once again direct you to the reception #FE got.

Hokay, I'll look that up actually. Though I'm sure I'll find the certain group of people I expect to find.

[Kincard]

Like who?
Aren't we talking about the same series that was basically headed to its grave until they put waifu stuff in it?

To your first point- I once again direct you to the reception #FE got. Also remember there's probably that desire (like with most games) to get new fans, whose opinions you are likely never going to hear if you limit yourself to the Internet.

Second point- I'm not entirely sure why people say this so often as if it's certainly true. I'm not saying the waifu stuff didn't get them some extra fans at all, but there were a lot of factors to Awakening's success people don't seem to consider. Aside from what Obsidian mentioned, there was the timing- aside from it having been a long while since Radiant Dawn, before that FE games had a pretty short break between each one (didn't help that Shadow Dragon was...mediocre, if I wanted to be nice). Probably got fans nice and hungry for a new entry. That, and the relative success of the 3DS (True that the Wii itself moved a shitzillion units but we all know a ton of that was from casual gamers who proceeded to not give a shit about the 3DS or the Wii U).

[Karbuncle]

I looked at the #FE stuff. Every picture shown had some of that "weird" stuff, it seems like the game might be a little saturated with it? That's a bit different than a single, head patting optional mini game. Though, I get what you're saying... actually, because I can see the complaints that Atlus turned "Fire Emblem" into that cutesy over the top "waifu" stuff. but I found just as many people excited for it as against it from the pictures and tweets I looked at... no more complaints than any game gets on the internet.

Also I could be looking at the wrong shit, as apparently a lot of tags using FE >_>

Edit: This http://nintendoeverything.com/genei-...ered-3ds-more/ is one of the articles i found.

[Obsidian]

Shadow Dragon was a perfect example of a game being re-released when it should have been remastered. FE1 was a very dated game and just giving the game a fresh coat of paint did not do it any favours.

[Mrbeansman]

Its just Nintendo being Nintendo

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