Jan. 15 2015 Version Update

[Classikmage]

are you kidding? you're kidding, right?

Nope!

[Dotsudoku]

As far as I know, SAM is still handily better than THF

[Limlight]

don't tell that to the thieves on ffxiah posting parses of them crushing koga sam's!

[Kainstryder]

New GTK looks ok for Incursion just to handle the amnesia bullshit Velkks do, but eh...

[Kanriel]

I'm a THF, I've always liked parsing well on it. I want Rudra's nerfed. I hate the playstyle, I hate how blatantly OP it is (seriously just close a SC with Rudra's while Largantua is using a TP move and he dies in seconds, some luck, but retarded as shit).

I want to get back to Mercy Stroke while SA/TA is up and Evisceration in between. I liked it, I was good at it, and I still did solid damage. Make Rudra's a better move at 2k+ TP, sure, but...not that much better, fuck.

[Limlight]

I agree with you Kanriel, I have two friends who are just crazy about thief and they always do well on it (before rudra's buff) They echo your sentiment.

[dasva]

So looks like a new bullet in there? Stinger bullet DMG:254 Delay:249
Ranged Accuracy-20
Unity Ranking: Ranged Attack+20-30. Seems inferior to Achiyal. Bullet though.

[NynJa]

I'm a THF, I've always liked parsing well on it. I want Rudra's nerfed. I hate the playstyle, I hate how blatantly OP it is (seriously just close a SC with Rudra's while Largantua is using a TP move and he dies in seconds, some luck, but retarded as shit).

I want to get back to Mercy Stroke while SA/TA is up and Evisceration in between. I liked it, I was good at it, and I still did solid damage. Make Rudra's a better move at 2k+ TP, sure, but...not that much better, fuck.

Seriously you're using that gimmick as a reason for why it should be nerfed?

[Kuishen]

Man, Mandau/HQ sirocco going to be putting out some sexy numbers with this...fuck.

Mandau still shit.

Izhii/Jugo +1 does beat Izhii/Atoyac (OAT, WSD) now though. I even put the additional effect damage at 10 which is very modest.

[vm0d]

Nope!

when thf stops getting one-shotted, then maybe...

[dasva]

Mandau still shit.

Izhii/Jugo +1 does beat Izhii/Atoyac (OAT, WSD) now though. I even put the additional effect damage at 10 which is very modest.

What about Jugo +1/Jugo!?! Honestly I just want to see that swing speed. Be like the good ole days before they got rid of the tp floor when people were gearing for lowest delay possible

[Classikmage]

when thf stops getting one-shotted, then maybe...

Actually, I see more SAM's get 1-shotted than i do THF's. <.<; No joke.

[dasva]

I'm a THF, I've always liked parsing well on it. I want Rudra's nerfed. I hate the playstyle, I hate how blatantly OP it is (seriously just close a SC with Rudra's while Largantua is using a TP move and he dies in seconds, some luck, but retarded as shit).

Need to nerf trueflight too!!!

[vm0d]

Mandau still shit.

Izhii/Jugo +1 does beat Izhii/Atoyac (OAT, WSD) now though. I even put the additional effect damage at 10 which is very modest.

does that include the mandau 13% otd that also procs on ws? cuz i haven't seen that anywhere...

[dasva]

does that include the mandau 13% otd that also procs on ws? cuz i haven't seen that anywhere...

ODD/ODT do not proc on ws

[Darvamos]

Umm no since they don't proc on wses

[Magitek]

So looks like a new bullet in there? Stinger bullet DMG:254 Delay:249&#xA;Ranged Accuracy-20&#xA;Unity Ranking: Ranged Attack+20-30. Seems inferior to Achiyal. Bullet though.

Yeah, I'd probably stick to using Achi bullet for regular shots... but maybe Stinger for WS (at least for nothing extremely evasive)? It's Unlimited shot + GMB/PPA all over again! Besides, it's gonna be a single bullet drop off KV 2.0, and you'll probably accidentally shoot it as soon as you get it >(

[Classikmage]

Yeah, I'd probably stick to using Achi bullet for regular shots... but maybe Stinger for WS (at least for nothing extremely evasive)? It's Unlimited shot + GMB/PPA all over again! Besides, it's gonna be a single bullet drop off KV 2.0, and you'll probably accidentally shoot it as soon as you get it >(

Real RNG's use Archery. lolgun! /endthread.

[Psycooo]

when thf stops getting one-shotted, then maybe...

Might wanna look into a different job if you are getting oneshotted on thf

[Kanriel]

Seriously you're using that gimmick as a reason for why it should be nerfed?

It was an example, of how the Rudra's change can completely marginalize some (new!) content.

I wanted some THF changes, but nothing like Rudra's.

I wanted a higher crit rate, maybe an Impetus-like JA.
I want Subtle Blow.
I also want TA to fully remove all enmity (either give current enmity to target we TA, or just remove it and give TA enmity to TA target) so THF can actually control hate in some capacity. THF wouldn't need to be the greatest DD in the world to get a spot if they could make it so a tank could actually tank content.