Patch 2.5 Notes

[Stef]

I did the thing. I calculated the actual number of enemy models drawn from various FF games. For science!

Spoiler: show

Note:

• I've counted mainly monster families except in cases where specific models have undergone significant changes to their skeletons and textures.
• I'm sure I missed some. I purposefully excluded a few like the Garlean generals, for example.
• Some may be duplicates.
• I don't have strategy guides for FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns, so I don't know if anything was taken from there (beyond Ultros and Typhon).
• Some didn't really fit into any category. Elementals and Giants draw from FFXI, but also have several fairly unique models in FFXIV, for example.

Sources:
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Category:Bestiary
and the bestiaries of various strategy guides


FFXIV 1.0 (60): Ghost, Wight, Aldgoat, Antelope, Bat, Boar, Buffalo, Mole, Rodent, Sheep, Wolf, Dodo, Hippogryph, Mammet, Vanguard, Eft, Drake, Peiste, Puk, Cactuar, Funguar, Landtrap, Morbol, Treant, Coblyn, Dullahan, Golem, Spriggan, Amaljaa, Ixal, Moogle, Sylph, Antling, Beetle, Chigoe, Firefly, Swarm, Yarzon, Ahriman, Bomb, Cyclops, Gnat, Ogre, Snurble, Plasmoid, Clam, Gigantoad, Jellyfish, Megalocrab, Slug, Garuda, Ifrit, Titan, Chimera, Batraal, Coeurl, Kobold, Flan (pudding), Magitek Dreadnaught, Orobon

FFXIV 2.0 - Monsters (26): Bear, Behemoth, Zu, Beast tribe Machinae, Death Claw, Sea dragon, Wyrm, Gremlin, Sahagin, Diremite , Succubus, Elbst, Beacon, Magic pot, Hecteyes, Baalzephon, White Magestone, Harpeia, Floating head, Megalotragus, Wyvern, Facer, Ziz, Magitek Reaper, Magitek Colossus,

FFXIV 2.0 – Bosses (40): Ultima, Gobmachine, Siren, Demon Wall, Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, Ash, Catoblepas, Arioch, Giruveganaus, Sasquatch, Kraken, Cuca Fera, Captain Madison (Redux), Wandil, Yeti, Vicegerent To The Warden, Anchag, Boogyman, Ferdiad, Einhander, Magitek Gunship, Midgardsormr, Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Odin, Phlegethon, Scylla, Glasya Labolas, Amon, Xande, Twintania, Nael Deus Darnus, Angra Mainyu, Cerberus, Cloud Of Darkness, Phoenix, Bahamut, Hydra

FFXI (38): Manticore, Opo-opo, Apkallu, Colibri, Vulture, Adamantoise, Dragonfly, Ogrefly, Raptor, Anantaboga, Goobbue, Mandragora, Ochu, Sapling, Goblin, Mamool Ja, Qiqirn, Tonberry, Giant hornet, Sandworm, Wamoura, Demon, Imp, Soulfalyer, Taurus, Vodoriga, Crab, Pugil, Uragnite, Scorpion, Lamia, Fenrir, Wivre, Manxome Molaa Ja Ja, Atomos, Ooze, Bhoots

FFXIII (7): Clockwork Warrior, Clockwork Dreadnaught, Aspect of Chaos, Behemoth, Anubys, Ultros, Typhon

FFXII (10): Croc, Serpent, Mirrorknight, Clockwork Bug, Mantis, Aevis, Dragon - ring wyrm, Tyrant, Defense node, Statue

FFVIII (1): Diabolos

Other (4): Elementals, Giant, Two-headed Dragon/Five-headed Dragon, Enemy humanoid (Ascian, Belahdian Knight, Mummy/Zombie/Fomor)

The results:
Unique models in FFXIV 2.0 account for roughly 17.5% (26/148) of all models when only regular monsters in 2.0 are counted (bosses are counted for other games) and roughly 35% (66/188) when unique 2.0 bosses are counted.

[Elcura]

You're making a counter argument to..... a handful of general observations and getting upset about it.

I don't know what your point is other than disagreeing about some retrospective musings that I found interesting while trying to be a massive cunt about it?

I feel like I said a while ago I don't even know why you post considering you say stupid shit for no reason other than to be obtuse or just because you need to say something. Wow TP is kinda maybe sorta like stamina how interesting I'm going to make stupid posts with that in mind.

Thanks for that.

[Hiryo]

IMO, we should just hold a BG talk show and/or wiki. Just sayin.

*looks at the last 5 pages of chat in a Patch Notes thread*

Well, I'd watch it

[Raldo]

Awesome list.

Only monster types that come to mind that are missing are
• Mimic - FFXI(?)
• Skeleton - FFXIV1.0(?)
• Nanka - FFXIV2.0

[Rocl]

FFXIV 2.0 model is slightly wrong:
Coeurls existed in 1.0 as the boss of Shposhae and in the MNK Relic Levequest
Kobolds also existed in 1.0 as open-world monsters (U'Ghamaro Mines itself existed)
Flan, assuming you mean puddings, existed as monsters in dungeons and the BLM Relic Levequest
Gargoyles existed as the boss of Dzemael Darkhold (Batraal) and in the DRG Relic Levequest

Also the Ziz in XIV aren't the Ziz in XI, also not sure how you think Bone Dragon is from XI when it's a redone wyrm that you list in XIV 2.0

[Stef]

FFXIV 2.0 model is slightly wrong:
Coeurls existed in 1.0 as the boss of Shposhae and in the MNK Relic Levequest
Kobolds also existed in 1.0 as open-world monsters (U'Ghamaro Mines itself existed)
Flan, assuming you mean puddings, existed as monsters in dungeons and the BLM Relic Levequest
Gargoyles existed as the boss of Dzemael Darkhold (Batraal) and in the DRG Relic Levequest

Also the Ziz in XIV aren't the Ziz in XI, also not sure how you think Bone Dragon is from XI when it's a redone wyrm that you list in XIV 2.0

Fixed, thanks!

And oops, I was thinking of Anantaboga, will change that.

[Sho]

Does it really matter where the team borrows models? It seems petty to argue about where the team pulled models from -- they are allowed the full library of textures, models likenesses, names (including bad translations like Ted Woolsey) from the entire Final Fantasy IP, so what does it matter if they borrow heavily from other games to enhance their own?

One could make the argument that the game lacks a bit of creativity with all of the borrowed models interspersed into the game, but the same thing can be said for every Final Fantasy game before it. FFXI, mobile games (including remakes) and even numbered titles borrowed from their predecessors as well. Didn't stop any of them from reaching various levels of success. I guess people see it differently because ARR is an MMO.

[Rocl]

Fixed, thanks!

And oops, I was thinking of Anantaboga, will change that.

While I'm at it you missed XIV's Orobons or Anglers if they were in the shroud in 1.0

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...uth_Orobon.png

Additionally by magitek armour i assume you magitek reapers aka FF6 magitek and they didn't exist until 2.0 \
magitek colossus i.e. iron giants didn't exist until 2.0
Hydra also didn't exist in 1.0, 2.0 only and is the same as Five-headed Dragon? I assume you meant "Two-headed" you were unsure of categorizing (I'd also argue 'humanoid enemies' and asicans are the same thing and humanoid enemies is a bit of a grey area esp w/ the races being based on XI; same thing for 'fomor/zombie' and 'humanoid enemies')

You also don't have XI Ghosts, known primarily as Bhoots in XIV (Crystal Tower, Pharos Sirius, etc.);
Peistes are also weird as fk somewhere between XI and XIV

[ronin sparthos]

Yo, I feel like I'm missing on juicy gossip.

Why is Mr. Happy a douchecanoe again?

[Stef]

Yo, I feel like I'm missing on juicy gossip.

Why is Mr. Happy a douchecanoe again?

He isn't really, he just seems to rub some people the wrong way. He does a lot to try to help people whether it's doing guides, answering questions about the game, organizing events, doing Coil in the DF, etc. He also actively promotes other streamers/youtubers like MTQcapture (and openly admits that her guides are clearer than his). He's lost his temper a couple times on Reddit (although he doesn't really frequent it at all) because so many people attack him for his videos. There was also the incident at Fan Fest with streamer Joeneverfails and the "Do you even PvP bro?" t-shirts. There was a long post on Reddit about Joeneverfails' life story and he's actually a pretty sympathetic guy.

They are decent people and haven't really done anything wrong, some people just don't like them for whatever reason.

[Rocl]

i don't care how sympathetic his life story is when he goes around screaming shit like a retard i'm going to hate him

[Rocl]

even if he was an actual tourettes retard

[Jem]

While I'm at it you missed XIV's Orobons or Anglers if they were in the shroud in 1.0

How can anyone forget Orobons! Get your PL on from that shit!

[Niiro]

I feel like I said a while ago I don't even know why you post considering you say stupid shit for no reason other than to be obtuse or just because you need to say something. Wow TP is kinda maybe sorta like stamina how interesting I'm going to make stupid posts with that in mind.

Thanks for that.

Well you seem to be pretty adamant about arguing with me about the most banal things that aren't even arguments.

So thanks for that?

Tbh tho I could do without my own personal forum hemorrhoid.

[Spider-Dan]

Diremites are also a 1.0 mob, not 2.0.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...rfDiremite.png

[Sho]

Yo, I feel like I'm missing on juicy gossip.

Why is Mr. Happy a douchecanoe again?

Just to preface, talking about him and any drama that surrounds him legitimizes his popularity as a caster. With that out of the way:

It's more or less a two way street concerning Mr. Happy. He's a well known [and popular] Youtube caster for FFXIV. With that said, being popular in anything brings on the haters regardless because haters are gonna hate. However, in Mr. Happy's case, he's just a douche in general which doesn't help his case. Of course there's the drama concerning him during an asshole at Fan Fest -- he was heckling and starting shit with people during PvP with his "fite me bro" friends. He also tried to cut in line and even tried to cheat the drawing board that picked random nerfs for the Extreme Roulette fight (him turning the board a few extra ticks when the SE employee wasn't looking; no one confirmed if it was him cheating or his friend or not). He's also picked fights with people on Reddit months ago on Reddit when he was supporting his friend JoeNever, to which he's already issued a Youtube apology for alongside apologizing for anything that may or may not have happened at Fan Fest. From there, he just has a condescending air in general in his videos, towards the dev team and the content they put out as well.

The guides he puts out does usually contain a lot of fluff explanations for fights -- he likes to go on tangents often, such as talking at length on individual abilities a mob has or complaining about how the mechanics were implemented (and how it could have been done better in his opinion), which all deviate from actually talking about the fight itself and what to avoid in the simplest of terms. You can combine this with the "haters gonna hate" explanation and "he's a dick" explanation to come to see the full picture.

In general he's a decent dude. I mean, he's raised over 5000$ for Extra Life through his guides and streaming -- you have to be a somewhat decent human being to do something of this nature. Again, doing something which is more than anything any of us can say we've done ourselves.

^

I am exceptionally drunk typing this, so take it how it is.

[Cairthenn]

Mr. Happy makes me Mr. Sad

[Odin'sLaw]

I second this

BG Talk weekly on how to casual the hardcore! :D

[Rocl]

Diremites are also a 1.0 mob, not 2.0.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...rfDiremite.png

Ah yeah, I usually think of them as Mites since the ones in Nanawa were scary as fuck

[Rocl]

Most users ever online was 6,763, 2015-01-20 at 10:44.

Nearly 6800 got their datmine info from me and Cair one patch, nigga plz

mostly cair and solracht but fuck solracht