Transgender Philosophy (Questions, Ideology)

**Stumblingdrunk** · 2015-01-31 13:07

Originally Posted by RKenshin

I mostly lurk, but still read just about every post in this forum since its inception... and this has probably been the most level-headed, educational, and fair thread I've ever seen on an otherwise very hot/difficult discussion topic.

Some hiccups, but still leagues ahead of any other discussions I've seen/read on this topic (here or elsewhere).

it would be significantly different without the modding changes.

**thetruepandagod** · 2015-01-31 19:58

Originally Posted by Stumblingdrunk

it would be significantly different without the modding changes.

Agreed, gred and bane have been doing a great job directing conversation and modding.

I'm almost always open to hearing any view point and letting people live their own lives, and when things are modded properly it encourages that. But otherwise i would've just been combative and purposely prickish when it feels like the mods are posting from isla's cunt.

**Gredival** · 2015-01-31 20:12

Originally Posted by thetruepandagod

i would've just been combative and purposely prickish when it feels like the mods are posting from isla's cunt.

GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR PRIVILEGE VICTIM BLAMER

**Eurell** · 2015-01-31 21:58

Man I always thought Isla was hilarious lol. But the only threads I sa hr in was when she was banning people in XI shit, so I guess I missed a bunch lol

**Gredival** · 2015-01-31 23:13

There's a gift in your PM folder.

**archibaldcrane** · 2015-01-31 23:52

Not reading through this shit, but I should throw this into the mix - an oldie but a goodie.

https://archibaldcrane.wordpress.com

**Gokku** · 2015-02-01 01:12

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Not reading through this shit, but I should throw this into the mix - an oldie but a goodie.

https://archibaldcrane.wordpress.com

read it, first off : *first 10 secs or so*

all i could think of was Dr. girlfriend *i just marathon'd the show*

but in all seriousness that would be my general reaction to said situation or at least have gotten to post / pre op questions

**Mazmaz** · 2015-02-01 07:49

Chiming in to say fuck this thread. Pretty hilarious that people think they will learn anything from a mod presenting a bunch of cisnormative bullshit disguised as information, and who perpetuated the sex/identity discussion and making it the main focus, instead of paving the way for real transgender discussion about experiences and life. Get the fuck out of the discussions mods.

PS. if something does happen to hey it's on Gred as far as I'm concerned.

**NynJa** · 2015-02-01 09:54

Calm down heterophobe
Or ill dorito the shit out of you

Whos fault is it that hey feels that someone who doesnt want to fuck a trans because theyre a woman with a penis is a bigoted transphobe? Not ours. Not our fault either that hey seems to think "were all bigoted transphobes and i cant post here", i dont remember any other transgender or homosexual posters ever leaving BG cause they felt oppressed?

When you set the respect bar so high where its "put me and my desires on the highest pedestal or youre disrespecting me as a transgender", youre going to have a bad bad time. Hey has demonstrated many times that she only worries about "the oppressed" and making them feel comfortable in any way possible, no matter how ridiculous it may be (ie: the the streets at night, public interactions, etc). This is just another one of them, where someone mislabeling (very likely by accident too) a transgender properly is highly offensive, and she takes it as bad as a racial slur. Considering that Kuya (i think, cant check on phone) said that theyre are some transgenders who prefer to be called their trans-sex as opposed to male/female, its obviously that what Hey wants isnt the collective desire. But Hey takes her desires, and expresses them as the collective desire of how things should be, when thats not the case.

**Melena** · 2015-02-01 13:12

People will learn more from that mod then from people stomping their feet screaming only their views are right then asking to be banned cause they can't stop themselves from posting in a thread they no longer like as they are not making people think the way they do.

**Xno Kappa** · 2015-02-01 14:25

Fuck the "mah feelings r hurt" brigade. That's the stupid shit that turns people away from this subforum. Thread has been extremely informative in spite of hey and no one gives a fuck about whatever madmad posts.

**Gokku** · 2015-02-01 14:26

This isn't even about hey, it's happened before with the lgbt threads and the feminist / gamer gate. The problem seems to be more of the idea that acceptance isn't enough nore seeking to Learn but that full blown sjw is the only way.

When you cannot make a logical and reasonable response to people avidly attempting to learn you lose alot of clout.

**Penthesilea** · 2015-02-01 15:02

Originally Posted by Mazmaz

Chiming in to say fuck this thread. Pretty hilarious that people think they will learn anything from a mod presenting a bunch of cisnormative bullshit disguised as information, and who perpetuated the sex/identity discussion and making it the main focus, instead of paving the way for real transgender discussion about experiences and life. Get the fuck out of the discussions mods.

PS. if something does happen to hey it's on Gred as far as I'm concerned.

Has anyone that is debating sex/identity closed off discussion of experiences and life as a transgender person? The only person so far has been archi to provide experiences and what not. Neither you nor hey have offered any sort of discourse other than to cry out and threaten to leave the conversation.

**BerenTebogo** · 2015-02-01 15:16

I needed that chuckle. Thanks for the laughs, Maz.

**archibaldcrane** · 2015-02-01 15:36

I'm kinda mad you guys chased hey away before she could apply her point of view to my story.

**shepardG** · 2015-02-01 15:48

In hey's defense (yeah, i know, i'm coming to hey's defense, weird)

They have alot more issues going on than just identifying as a woman. If you can't tell that from the pictures in Real life pic thread, and from they way they've acted on here.
Maybe people want to say all those things stem from this issue of Transgender, but they at some point have to come to grips with the fact that thats who they are, move on (through hard work and perserverance) and get their shit straight. Then they can start to educate and tell other people about what it's like to be a transgender. Same concept of "Can't love someone else, unless you love yourself 1st"...

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2015-02-01 16:16

Move the conversation on to something else. Discussing users, even ex-users, is not appropriate without their participation.

Also, I am going to let this slide this once, but feedback goes in the thread with "Feedback goes here" in the title. Doesn't need to be about me.

If you don't like a thread, don't just post about how shitty it is. I got infracted for that, once.

**Aksannyi** · 2015-02-01 16:17

One of hey's issues could be that you call her "they" instead of using female pronouns, which she has repeatedly stated she prefers.

Sorry Bane, we posted at the same time, but I'm leaving that to stand. Use proper pronouns.

**Koul** · 2015-02-01 16:18

Insecurity is a bitch

**shepardG** · 2015-02-01 16:25

I call my own mother "They", if that offends them, then their going to have to fucking get over it. worlds harsh, and it won't ever be easy. letting the little shit like that get under your skin makes me want to say "fuck off you fucking bitch" to someone.

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