2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[Roranora]

It's only Hilldog in a walk if Trump wins or goes rogue

I feel like these are the only things he can do now.

[archibaldcrane]

He could easily lose Iowa and New Hampshire, and that would really hurt him down the line. If he's limping into the convention with sub-10% of the delegates he's not going to be running 3rd party.

[archibaldcrane]

I just read someone call Trump "The Gamergate of the Republican party"

"Actually, it's about making America great again."

[Churchill]

Sounds like something Isla would say

[Gredival]

New Yorker on why Hillary's Wall Street platform more comprehensive and realistic than Bernie's

http://www.newyorker.com/business/cu...d-most-popular

The main way that Sanders would counter Wall Street power is Bernie Sanders, in all his lovably crotchety, Wall Street-donation-denying, incorruptible Bernieness. But when Sanders discusses how this would happen in policy terms he demonstrates an obsessive focus on breaking up the six largest U.S. banks and reëstablishing Glass-Steagall. His Web site, too, is a hedgehog where Wall Street is concerned, burrowing deeply into his big idea of a big-bank breakup.

Clinton’s fox-like, forty-eight-hundred-word plan for smaller, wider reforms contains so many details that it’s impossible not to quibble with some of them. But their breadth and diversity capture Wall Street’s diffuseness and variability. In finance, there is a divide between the “sell side,” the banks selling financial advice and services, and the “buy side,” the thousands of asset managers—mainly hedge funds, private-equity funds, venture-capital firms, and mutual funds—that sometimes use the sell side’s services to invest money. And if there is a central story of Wall Street since the nineteen-nineties, it has been the stagnation of the sell side and the rise of the buy side, because of technology, regulation, and new profit opportunities.

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So why is Sanders so obsessed with Glass-Steagall and the big banks? It seems to be a matter of personal style and historical tradition: as a socialist, Sanders is echoing political ancestors who railed against Big Banks, Big Oil, Big Everything. He also appears to be fighting the last war, of the 2008 financial crisis, out of a conviction that the “too big to fail” banks still pose a systemic risk to the economy. This conviction has some basis in fact: though the big Wall Street banks’ net incomes are declining, the five largest commercial banks did still hold forty-five per cent of the industry’s total assets at the end of 2014. But breaking up the banks, like vetoing the Keystone XL pipeline, seems to be a classic Washington solution: a single political act that can symbolically and almost miraculously address more intractable problems, like income inequality or the consumption of fossil fuels. Neither that nor reëstablishing Glass-Steagall would do anything much to change the bulk of Wall Street. (In her Times piece, Clinton argued that it wouldn’t have done much to prevent the 2008 crisis, either; Megan McArdle concluded the same thing in a detailed post last month for Bloomberg.)

[notorious bum]

Next hot piece, The New Yorker will ask weapons trader to write a piece on why Donald Trump is the most intelligent foreign policy candidate we've seen in years!

[Gredival]

Hey guys we're seeing Sath's study in action.

[Galkaeater]

>jeb

[notorious bum]

Hey guys we're seeing Sath's study in action.

I have no idea what this means, but if you're actually straight nodding with that wallstreet bro, and not trolling, then I don't know what else to tell you lol The New Yorker got standards, ya'll.

I even found out that homie got a book coming out next year titled the Shale revolution. I, too, have a bridge to sell. http://www.wsj.com/articles/fracking...ive-1443053791

[archibaldcrane]

Elizabeth Warren also endorsed Hillary's Wall St. Plan, but we all know what a shill she is for the banking industry.

[Salodin]

Trump has only spent 216k? Holy crap, that's amazing.

[AidenCarby]

He's a man of integrity! Hard facts and logic is all you need to win votes baby

[notorious bum]

Elizabeth Warren also endorsed Hillary's Wall St. Plan, but we all know what a shill she is for the banking industry.

Warren is also not writing fantasy slam pieces on Bernie's threat towards the status quo. Warren has backed Hilldog since day one, there's nowhere else to go for her.

Donald Trump’s name, likeness removed from Dubai golf sites

Now you see him, Now you don't #dubai removes picture @realDonaldTrump from property development #trump pic.twitter.com/63PhbGD3aL

— Elephant Speed (@ElephantSpeed) December 10, 2015

http://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsne...f-sites-14592/

Now he done fucked up.

[Quicklet]

Elizabeth Warren also endorsed Hillary's Wall St. Plan, but we all know what a shill she is for the banking industry.

Read the op-ed. I don't read Warren's statement as an endorsement of the plan as a whole so much as an agreement that the current budget negotiations should not be used to roll back some of the financial protections won in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis. In fact Warren doesn't say anything about Hillary's plan at all beyond that.

Warren has not endorsed Hillary and she probably won't endorse Hillary until Bernie drops out.

[Serra]

Democrats: Nothing to really report -- Hillary has dropped a little, but still holding over 50%, Sanders remains just over 30%, and O'Malley remains irrelevant.

Republicans: Trump (27%), Cruz (22%), Rubio (15%) Carson (11%) and Bush (7%) comprise the top five -- guess all that money Bush has been spending paid off! Look at him, back in the top five~

[Gredival]

Another statistic with inverse correlation to standing: lying.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/op...an-others.html

Though it is delicious irony that Bill Clinton is overall the most honest politician of the past two decades.

[Tyrath]

Though it is delicious irony that Bill Clinton is overall the most honest politician of the past two decades.

She has more "pants on fire" ratings than the 4 above her who are very close in % ratings. So I don't think I'd consider her the most honest of the bunch.

[Aelfinn]

Trump has only spent 216k? Holy crap, that's amazing.

he doesn't need ads, the mass media coverage of his ridiculousness is giving him all the publicity he could want.

[Gredival]

She has more "pants on fire" ratings than the 4 above her who are very close in % ratings. So I don't think I'd consider her the most honest of the bunch.

I said Bill.

[Tyrath]

Err, I misread but my comment still applies to him!