2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[6souls]

well its not like they would put out a press release going CRUZ CONTROL EVERYONE COME ON BOARD!

But lines dances, though

[myreality]

Sanders's camp says that the Iowa Democratic Party has informed the campaigns that the caucus results from 90 precincts are missing. — John Wagner

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[Zealot]

The Republican debates so far have been a chorus of Rand Paul and John Kasich answering questions as they're asked and everyone else talking about how they hate Hillary and Obama more than the other guy, so this is pretty par for the course.

[6souls]

I'll see your WP reporter and up you a NYT

Sanders campaign says 90 precincts results are missing because the party failed to properly staff them. Campaigns now having to help.

https://twitter.com/Yamiche?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

which is about 5% of the votes

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/694398241140531202

[myreality]

Patrick Caldwell ✔ @patcaldwell
Pete D’Alessandro from Sanders campaign says their internal numbers show them up 2.
9:43 PM - 1 Feb 2016

Not sure i want to go down this rabbit hole.

[Tyrath]

They split the delegates. Call it a tie and move on.

[6souls]

[6souls]

[6souls]

https://elections.npr.org/

[Cayos]

How does that work? How did Bernie only get 29 delegates while Clinton got 384?

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[6souls]

idk, but if you google "AP Delegate Count,100" it all says the same thing.

[Sho]

Good for her if she wins the nomination and general election, but voters would be dumb to think Hillary would go full Sanders in office after the hundreds of millions big business has given to her and hers.

Not even Sanders will go full Sanders in office. This is why people on either extreme are pretty fucking stupid on most issues. They go off of pure emotion alone.

[Churchill]

shh, democracy

[Churchill]

Not even Sanders will go full Sanders in office. This is why people on either extreme are pretty fucking stupid on most issues. They go off of pure emotion alone.

It comes down to their willingness to do it really. Executive order is the ultimate carte blance, regardless of what people think to the contrary.

What I imagine would happen, in a foreign policy case, would be Sanders asking "How can we remove our troops from these places, reduce our footprint, stop supporting Israel, etc, and what are the current budgets and projects for the following agencies"

Obviously the military will be like, dawg, we can't just not be doing stuff, and certain programs would continue, and a timeline for the other stuff would be figured out.

If he didn't like the timeline, he could ignore it and make it happen faster, or he could go with it knowing that if it was under 4 years, it would get done.

Same thing for nuclear power really. There's no real way to get rid of it in 4 years, much less 8, and restricting it wouldn't do anything because we're not building new plants anyway. It fucks the country for 4-8 years because he's a fucking moron but it's the same fucking we're already taking in the ass.

[Andalusian girls]

How does that work? How did Bernie only get 29 delegates while Clinton got 384?

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superdelegates, roughly 1/6th of all Democratic delegates are composed of individuals whose votes are not tied to the results of the state caucuses and elections. they are typically governors, congresspeoples, senators, and party officials, and they may vote for whomever their little hearts desire. so far about 350 have declared for Hillary, about 15 for Bernie

their support for Barack in 2008 is largely why Hillary lost despite winning the popular vote total

[Fiye]

Give it a day and you'll see gawker bitching about how sanders got so few super delegates.

[Sho]

Super Delegates are the bane of the Democratic Party.

[Andalusian girls]

in fairness Republicans have them too, but they only make up about 1/20th of their total delegates

[Talint]

When did republicans opt to split delegates? I thought they used to be winner-take-all.

[Gredival]

When did republicans opt to split delegates? I thought they used to be winner-take-all.

I think it was Romney took forever to seal things up because Iowa always picks a stupid fringe candidate. It was part of a bunch of things they did to try seal nominations earlier for establishment candidates.

There was an interview a few months ago with the architect and they asked him if it worked and if they would avoid the primaries going crazy and he said dejectedly "Look at how Ben Carson is doing in the polls."