2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[Sho]

So, what do you guys think the split will be between constitutional ban on gay marriage vs repealing the ACA at the first republican debate?

I think the the split will be about 60/40 in against gay marriage and about 90/10 or 100% on killing off ACA. The real pigheadedness will be showing, and it will be very painful to watch. For the gay marriage, I can envision a lot of candidates sharing the same ideals of "using their constitutional rights" to attempt to overturn the Supreme Court ruling. Rand Paul will be OK with same sex marriage, Jeb Bush will straddle the fence, Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, & Lindsey Graham will "respect the law" instead of be in favor. Huckabee will swing hyper Christian. Perry will swing traditionalist. Trump will create another spectacle and call people out before being against gay marriage. The sad thing is, the entire rhetoric will be completely Christianity based -- the entire God (Man & Woman)> Rights spiel that we've heard since we were all little.

As for the Affordable Care Act, just about every candidate will be against it and seek to find ways to repeal and kill the act Constitutionally. I am particularly interested in seeing what Donald Trump will say if he is put in the debate. I can only imagine him going extra HAM on Ted Cruz's hypocrisy.

[Serra]

Sorry, I meant between the two -- which candidates are going to emphasize the ACA is the biggest crisis facing the country and which will say the biggest crisis is the legalization of gay marriage.

[Tyrath]

I think ACA will still be the bigger chunk because I think more of the GOP is anti Obama than homophobic. Which is kinda sad also.

[Serra]

If you needed a reason to hate Ted Cruz even more, he's calling for an amendment for judicial retention elections after yesterday.

[kuronosan]

Wah wah wah I don't want change so change the Supreme Court so that it's also full of former CEOs.

[Serra]

Current standings:
Democrats - no change
Republicans - Top 3: Bush, Trump, Carson; Perry and Jindal both have 2% and are tied at 10th; Pataki and Graham don't make the cut (Graham probably shot himself in the foot by not blasting the Supreme Court decision).

[Salodin]

The fact that there are enough racists in this country to get Trump in the top 3 is really depressing. As a joke, Trump is great, but now if it gets serious? Nooooo

[Serra]

I don't think it's entirely the racists which have gotten Trump up there. Trump is an attraction and an entertainer. As fun as he is to watch, I doubt he'll be able to keep the momentum going past the debates.

[tyven]

bruh who trying to get on that Rand Paul train with me?????????

[Byrthnoth]

I'll watch the Republican primary debates if they get Trumped.

[Dimmauk]

I was at a customer's house and they were watching Fox news and Trump was on bitching about Univision. These customers actually said, "I think Trump would be a good president. He is already rich, so lobbyist cant pay him off like they can Obama."

I was like


Now before you LOLTEXAS, these people just moved here from New Hampshire a month ago.

[Serra]

Republican debates are going to be a clusterfuck regardless of who participates -- I'm really looking forward to it!

[Qalbert]

NBC dumped Trump.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...emarks-n383856

[Salodin]

They dump the beauty pageants but keep the Apprentice...lol.

[Ragnus]

I was at a customer's house and they were watching Fox news and Trump was on bitching about Univision. These customers actually said, "I think Trump would be a good president. He is already rich, so lobbyist cant pay him off like they can Obama."

I was like


Now before you LOLTEXAS, these people just moved here from New Hampshire a month ago.

To be fair, NH is pretty much the TX of the north. The whole state is a libertarian cesspool. There's no infrastructure, the residents tout that there's no sales tax despite the property and prepared foods taxes being stupidly high, and I'm pretty sure they all hate anyone liberal leaning. I've had conversations where residents where they seriously think that it would be the best thing for the country to load all the liberals onto a barge and set it adrift.

Also, they kinda have a thing where they call Manchester Manch Vegas because there's a convention center in the middle of the small ass city. No lie.

[tyven]

CHRIS CHRISTIE YES. MY GOD CAN THIS GET ANY BETTER?

[Melena]

who needs Barnum and Bailey when we got the republican nomination process.

[Dantrag]

When is the first debate? It's going to be fucking gold with so many people. 1/2 of them will be ignored ala Ron Paul though lol.

[Serra]

August 6th, but only the top ten candidates are able to participate.

[Qalbert]