2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[6souls]

[archibaldcrane]

Man, every single reply is just roasting him. It's glorious.

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/stat...62318486142976

[Cantih]

Can you say for sure that you're going to make a sandwich on Tuesday, November 8, 2016? No, you can't, because it isn't a priority to you.

Actually, I can say with absolute certainty I will not make a sandwich on election day 2016. Because I work at the poll on election days, and that is a 15 hour day where the only things that happen are work, sleep, and fast food.

But I'll probably make one tomorrow.

[ringthree]

Even if he doesn't get the nomination, I'm still writing his name in on my ballot.

As much as I personally disagree with your support of his candidacy, I do very much support your participation in the process even if your preferred candidate does not make it on the ballot.

[BerenTebogo]

Insert loud groan here

[tyven]

THE RAND PAUL TRAIN IS NOT SLOWING DOWN SO GET ON OR GET RUN OVER

[SamanosukeShiva]

If Hillary gets elected president, maybe we'll get a change on a social issue or two, but on the economic side, it'll be no different than if we had elected a republican, she is a corporate lapdog, always swing where the money is.

[Salodin]

Chelsea isn't political right? Maybe hilldog will change since there isn't another Clinton left to run for office in the future.

[Serra]

Let's say Sanders wins the Democratic nomination and wins the general election. Guess what, a lot isn't going to change. Presidents don't get to railroad whatever they want into legislation. Just look at the ACA compared to what Obama envisioned as health care reform during his campaign. The real reason to be concerned with presidential elections is not for the legislation (outside their big issue), but the Supreme Court. Ginsburg, Scalia, Kennedy, and Breyer are all over 75 years old. If the next president serves two terms, it's not a far stretch to imagine they'll get to pick two new justices.

That's why when someone talks about wasting their vote (and I don't mean this as an attack), to me personally, it shows that they might be passionate about politics, but they don't really understand the reality of the process (or maybe that they haven't given up hope about politics yet..).

[notorious bum]

Obama was never for universal healthcare lol Ya'll didn't pay attention to him at the 08 campaign trail and during debates. We got exactly what he said he was going to be: a black Republican.

[archibaldcrane]

Yeah, Republicans love liberal supreme Court nominees and doubling the salary limit to which you can avoid paying overtime.

[notorious bum]

OH, sick burn bro. You got me!

[kuronosan]

He did, actually.

[notorious bum]

I know, just being a dick. I can still call him a Republican, though. Just because the goal posts have shifted over the years and Pluto is no longer a planet, it don't mean shit to me lol

[SamanosukeShiva]

Let's say Sanders wins the Democratic nomination and wins the general election. Guess what, a lot isn't going to change. Presidents don't get to railroad whatever they want into legislation. Just look at the ACA compared to what Obama envisioned as health care reform during his campaign. The real reason to be concerned with presidential elections is not for the legislation (outside their big issue), but the Supreme Court. Ginsburg, Scalia, Kennedy, and Breyer are all over 75 years old. If the next president serves two terms, it's not a far stretch to imagine they'll get to pick two new justices.

That's why when someone talks about wasting their vote (and I don't mean this as an attack), to me personally, it shows that they might be passionate about politics, but they don't really understand the reality of the process (or maybe that they haven't given up hope about politics yet..).

With the grassroot movement he has going right now, he could pull a bully pulpit like Teddy Roosevelt, he certainly is capable for firing up the masses.

[Tyrath]

I don't see how voting Sanders is wasting your vote. Even if he loses the primary to Hillary, you can go back to voting for Hillary in the general election. Now if he was running as an independent then it might be wasting your vote by taking the votes away from Hillary and possibly giving the win to whatever idiot wins the GOP primaries.

[Eurell]

I don't see how voting Sanders is wasting your vote. Even if he loses the primary to Hillary, you can go back to voting for Hillary in the general election. Now if he was running as an independent then it might be wasting your vote by taking the votes away from Hillary and possibly giving the win to whatever idiot wins the GOP primaries.

He was saying he'd write down Sanders in the general election, after Clinton beats him in the primaries.

[Tyrath]

Welp thats what I get for not reading everything D:

[Gredival]

With the grassroot movement he has going right now, he could pull a bully pulpit like Teddy Roosevelt, he certainly is capable for firing up the masses.

I don't think that works with how the country is geographically divided into ideological extremes.

The reason Trump is polling surprisingly well is because to about 40% of the country (which is spread out well enough to almost guarantee a majority in the House and prevent a Democratic super-majority in the Senate) what he's saying makes perfect sense (i.e. the exact opposite of everything Bernie is campaigning on).

You will get an obstructionist GOP empowered by their extreme constituents that won't care what the rest of the country wants.

I mean did Obama get to do anything significant after the "referendum" election? His one major legislative item of his second term is TPP which the GOP is working with him on because the Democrats aren't. Everything else that's happened has been a result of Obama resorting to increasing use of executive power.

[kuronosan]

He's right. Every argument I've ever heard for why Trump should be president starts with the phrase, "what he says makes sense" even though it clearly doesn't.

He just says all the right things, like a player wooing their prey.