2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[6souls]

It seems fitting that Fiorina endorses Cruz, but I wouldn't want that endorsement.

[Dotsudoku]

Isn't likely to change anything, but Missouri had a slight shift in favor of Hill

[kuronosan]

Well at this point it doesn't matter. So many people have "lost hope" that no matter what the outcome Bernie can win every state decisively from here on out and his only hope will still be having the funds to make it to the convention and plea.

[Andalusian girls]

Trump's lead over Cruz in Missouri at 0.3%, and it actually matters some as 12 of Missouri's delegates are awarded to whoever wins the popular vote

[Tyche]

TIL: Ted Cruz was a national debate champion at Princeton. I never realized he could blow that much hot air that quickly.

[Aerin]

Man, I keep on hoping that Cruz can beat Trump in places so he doesn't get the nomination. Then I listen to Cruz and realize he's just as bat shit crazy as Trump is, just in different ways.

[Niiro]

Cruz thinks Trump and the media are working together? Dafuk

Are they not?

Trump gets his free publicity, broadcasters get ratings because people love watching his lunacy.

This has been the foundation of his entire PR campaign since day 1.

[Krandor]

Everyone else pays for ads, Trump just tweets out some random shit and then gets free airtime on every network to explain it.

[Aerin]

Are they not?

Trump gets his free publicity, broadcasters get ratings because people love watching his lunacy.

This has been the foundation of his entire PR campaign since day 1.

I wouldn't say that's working together, more like the media going, "Hey, something ridiculous/crazy is going on over there! Ratings!"

It's like a moth to a flame, or a reporter to the middle of a Cat 5 hurricane.

[Niiro]

Moths, flames, and hurricanes do not have political ambitions.

Giving a hurricane media coverage does not then produce a stronger hurricane on which you can report.

[Aerin]

Sure, but that's not the point. Even Fox News openly hates Trump, but they give him "free" airtime for the same reason others do

[Airenn]

Fuck this country, that is all. I am so salty over so much. My own mother didn't vote. Granted she's not affiliated and Fl is closed primaries in that regard, so my first sentence stands.

[Niiro]

Sure, but that's not the point. Even Fox News openly hates Trump, but they give him "free" airtime for the same reason others do

The nature of their coverage is irrelevant to Trump's goal of exposure, just because the coverage is negative doesn't mean they don't have a vested interest in his continued success.

No such thing as bad publicity, etc.

You could interpret coverage of Trump almost as an investment really, the better he does the more people want to see of him, whether the information is positive or negative in nature.

[6souls]

Paul Ryan for GOP nomination?

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/15/paul-...g-gop-nom.html

[Aerin]

The nature of their coverage is irrelevant to Trump's goal of exposure, just because the coverage is negative doesn't mean they don't have a vested interest in his continued success.

No such thing as bad publicity, etc.

You could interpret coverage of Trump almost as an investment really, the better he does the more people want to see of him, whether the information is positive or negative in nature.

Just because you have a vested interest in something does not mean you're coordinating to make sure it succeeds. Which is what I take him saying that they're "working together" to mean. Like the media is coordinating with Trump to make sure that he wins. Which would be interesting since he openly lambasts the media in general.

[Minions]

Paul Ryan for GOP nomination?

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/15/paul-...g-gop-nom.html

Can't wait to see the revolt after someone else is put as the nominee despite not running. I still want to see Trump run independent as the biggest middle finger of all time.

[6souls]

[Niiro]

Just because you have a vested interest in something does not mean you're coordinating to make sure it succeeds. Which is what I take him saying that they're "working together" to mean. Like the media is coordinating with Trump to make sure that he wins. Which would be interesting since he openly lambasts the media in general.

I wouldn't consider any kind of direct, planned cooperation necessary to say that they do in fact coordinate.

They have a clear, known symbiotic relationship and they both gain from perpetuating that relationship.

It would be like saying lobbying isn't actually bribery because there's no verbatim quid pro quo between the 2 parties.

[Marootsoobutsu]

About 8 years ago, my brother-in-law and I got to talking. I'd seen his, "Who Stole Feminism" book, asked about it. We talked a bit on the topic, and eventually he just came out and said, "After looking at the corporate and legal world, and just looking at the people I've read in depth, I think that women are smarter than men." I disagreed, but didn't really say anything. Just, "Huh."

Over this election cycle, I've been looking at the demographics of the people voting for Trump, and I think I have to change my mind.

[Aerin]

I wouldn't consider any kind of direct, planned cooperation necessary to say that they do in fact coordinate.

I guess this is where we differ. I'd call it something else, maybe just the symbiotic relationship than coordination.