2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[Quicklet]

If Clinton were a regular person she would be in jail right now and have the book thrown at her. The wealthy and powerful get much more slack than you or I would get for much lesser sins. The only time they're actually held to account are when they do something incredibly stupid/obvious (like storing cash in their freezer) or when the government wants to make an example out of them like Martha Stewart.

Minions is right though -- people who believe Clinton will actually have to account for the server stuff are deluding themselves.

[Rooney]

Here's a fairly good article on the chances of an indictment happening. (not very high)

http://prospect.org/article/why-hill...legal-analysis

[Gredival]

Lets just be honest with ourselves. Only one out of the five people left has his head on his shoulders and is being 90%+ honest with the electorate (Sanders) on what he believes in.

Sanders is anything but honest with the electorate if he's trying to sell voters on the idea that he can use their voices to bring about change in Washington through a political revolution.

Clinton is way more honest telling people shit will be slow.

Where are the moderate voices of the republican party? Do they come out of their dens when the conservative leadership sinks the ship?

They either get in line behind Trump because in the end they realize that whatever they hate about him is insignificant compared to the conservative values he embodies over HRC, or they stay home or vote for HRC because he's too far off the deep end and HRC actually better represents them.

That's the danger when your party embraces the extremes

(The same goes for Cruz)

[Minions]

Yeah, but honestly, the things that Sanders believes in are things that can't be done without a massive overhaul to Congress and the Supreme Court (something Sanders is aware of, pointing to at least some level of disingenuousness on his part). That's the rage-inducing part of all the people who aren't going to show up to the polls if Bernie's not on the ticket. Their guy isn't going to be the nominee, so they're going to actively harm the chances of any single part of his agenda passing without him or anyone like Sanders being able to accomplish anything in the Legislative branch. Give me a break, Berniebros.

People just don't understand that the outcome of this election (D or R) is going to end up shaping the next 2-3 decades if not longer. Some other SCOTUS members may pass away during that time, but each member that is selected now is pretty much controlling the fate of the country.

[Krandor]

Here's a fairly good article on the chances of an indictment happening. (not very high)

http://prospect.org/article/why-hill...legal-analysis

Hey I can find a webpage that supports my view on the subject as well.

https://informedvote2016.wordpress.c...cted-full-form

[Minions]

Hey I can find a webpage that supports my view on the subject as well.

https://informedvote2016.wordpress.c...cted-full-form

JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS.

You can find almost anything if you search for it.


So long as it wasn't before the internet existed.... a lot of crap from my childhood I can't seem to locate

[Gredival]

Which is Archie, which is Gred?

I'm evil Phillip Seymour Hoffman from the Ides of March.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...parties-222670
http://www.citypages.com/news/report...gn-dnc-8248719

Funds that are supposed to be saved for State Democratic campaigns are being transferred in large amounts to Hilldog's campaign.

Not that I would think it's a problem or that I would care, because I'm basically a heartless GOP strategist in Democratic clothing, but the money is being transferred to the DNC which is not in fact Hillary's campaign (although it's quite obvious who their favorite is).

That money can still be, and probably will be, used in downticket races -- just ones that are of national importance like the IL/WI/PA Senate seats.

[notorious bum]

Clinton will be much, much more honest about what she says to voters come time for the convention. She's already cleaning up that dumb comment she made about putting coal miners out of work and is now stating coal is fine, don't worry Charles and David Koch.

I fully expect her to step out of this bizarre Bernie-lite character as the months pass, you just know she can't wait to go on more FP tangents and exclaim how much stronger she is over Trump.

[notorious bum]

This is what Hillary meant when she said "single payer will never ever happen."

Prominent Democratic Consultants Sign Up to Defeat Single Payer in Colorado
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/03/...yer-dems-colo/

[thetruepandagod]

Lets just be honest with ourselves. Only one out of the five people left has his head on his shoulders and is being 90%+ honest with the electorate (Sanders) on what he believes in.

However, the likely person who will become president is Clinton.

Head on shoulders? No. Honest, yes. But it's easy to be honest when you deal with daydreams and fairy tales.

[kisada]

hey if he believes it, he believes it

[Xno Kappa]

CNN calling Indiana for Trump.

[Minions]

Pretty sure the only question was whether they could pull Trump under 50

[Krandor]

CNN calling Indiana for Trump.

Wonder how much longer Cruz and Kasich plan to drag this out

[Rooney]

Not surprisingly, the more rural/less educated counties went for Trump. What is surprising is that Bernie isn't winning the counties with the major universities.

[Minions]

Give it time. Bernie may end up pulling it out. Wont be by a large margin though.

[archibaldcrane]

But teh exit pollz show Indiana is #FeelingtheBERN

[Andalusian girls]

that should be that, barring an act of God it will be Hillary vs Trump. NeverTrump desperately needed a winner-take-most victory after his overperformances in the Northeast (and given Donald's polling in California) and for those among you capable of math it has been clear Bernie is no longer a viable candidate and what will be be another delegate tie reinforces the concept that he's down by 30 in the 4th quarter and another minute just came off the clock.

[Cjskater]

Not surprisingly, the more rural/less educated counties went for Trump. What is surprising is that Bernie isn't winning the counties with the major universities.

Maybe it was different when you posted but he is currently winning the entire state minus 2 northeastern counties who went Cruz by around 1%. He has 50.9% right now in Indianapolis. I think its been thoroughly debunked this election that cities have "smarter" voters. They go for the most electable early in the race and then vote for who will win later in the race.

[Rooney]

When I posted it was <10% reporting, and those were mainly the rural counties. I fully expected Trump to win given how people are in the state.