2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[Dimmauk]

But I don't remember calling Hillary the anti-christ.

Are HillHoes still playing the victim? Shit was old a month ago.

[Gryffes]

So Trump met with Paul Ryan and other republican leaders, all of which have previously stated that Trump is a Faux conservative who will destroy the world. Post meeting they're all like "man, we can totally work this out and party unity is #1!"

How can you call someone the anti-christ on Tuesday, then say you'll support him as your leader on Wednesday.

Get on board the trump train or get run over.

[Gredival]

So Trump met with Paul Ryan and other republican leaders, all of which have previously stated that Trump is a Faux conservative who will destroy the world. Post meeting they're all like "man, we can totally work this out and party unity is #1!"

How can you call someone the anti-christ on Tuesday, then say you'll support him as your leader on Wednesday.

Because the only thing that matters in the game is the (D) or the (R) after the name.

[Niiro]

the only thing that matters in the game is the (D)

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[Sho]

So Trump met with Paul Ryan and other republican leaders, all of which have previously stated that Trump is a Faux conservative who will destroy the world. Post meeting they're all like "man, we can totally work this out and party unity is #1!"

How can you call someone the anti-christ on Tuesday, then say you'll support him as your leader on Wednesday.

Because this is how real politics work behind the scenes. Backdoor dealing.

Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party for the office of President of the United States. Paul Ryan is not only the #1 most favored Republican in the country, but also the current Speaker of the House and 2nd in line to be President. No one involved wants to see Clinton take POTUS, nor do they want to see their future positions jeopardized (esp. in the case of Ryan, McCain, others) so they have to get behind Trump, faux or not, under the banner of the GOP.

This is why no one politician should be trusted 100% no matter what they say or feel. Also the reason why Trump has dominated the GOP and left most of us dumbfounded all the way.

[Dantrag]

Get on board the trump train or get run over.

Sorry but that's gold. The only one that doesn't belong is Obama saying he's not going to be president. Which unlike the others has not yet to be proven one way or the other.

[Quicklet]

Because this is how real politics work behind the scenes. Backdoor dealing.

Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party for the office of President of the United States. Paul Ryan is not only the #1 most favored Republican in the country, but also the current Speaker of the House and 2nd in line to be President. No one involved wants to see Clinton take POTUS, nor do they want to see their future positions jeopardized (esp. in the case of Ryan, McCain, others) so they have to get behind Trump, faux or not, under the banner of the GOP.

This is why no one politician should be trusted 100% no matter what they say or feel. Also the reason why Trump has dominated the GOP and left most of us dumbfounded all the way.

This is the exact thing that the average person hates about politicians and it's only going to backfire on them, one way or another.

[Krandor]

Uh, that's how the entire world works, and it's done OK so far.

[Quicklet]

Tell that to Cantor and Boehner. Paul Ryan is a few unfulfilled promises away from being the next head on the pike for the Republican base.

[Tyrath]

Uh, that's how the entire world works, and it's done OK so far.

Yeah we should never work to improve anything, amirite?

[Krandor]

Yeah we should never work to improve anything, amirite?

Did I say that? And regardless, are we assuming that things can't be improved by deals/talks made outside the public eye?

[Gredival]

As Henry Louis Gates more politely put it in the New Yorker, "[F]or all we know, Hillary Clinton may be guilty of everything she’s accused of and more. You might say the point is that we don’t know. And it’s in those dark gaps in our knowledge that the political unconscious makes itself felt: you can’t tell a gun from a cigarette by the smoke alone. Which inference you prefer depends on which story you prefer—assuming you’ve been given one."

By the way, Gates wrote that twenty fucking years ago. The article is titled "Hating Hillary," and it's fascinating to reread it now in the context of an election in the middle of our third decade of thinking that Clinton must be dirty from some scandal and worthy of hate.

And this is not about her donors or her paid speeches or whatever, although the way we think about those things are colored by one of the most successful right-wing smear campaigns ever. No, this is the Hillary Scandal Industrial Complex, the nexus of Filegate-Whitewater-Travelgate-Benghazi-EmailServerGate and more, all fantasies conjured by conservatives in order to punish her for the sin of being a First Lady who tried to get health care reform passed and didn't shut the fuck up and order drapes for the president's bedroom.

You think that's oversimplifying it? Then you didn't fucking live through it in the 1990s. You didn't watch as men in both parties tore themselves to pieces over what they viewed as Clinton's lack of decorum, her failure to merely be an adornment for her husband (see the reaction to Eleanor Roosevelt for this level of intense hatred).

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What pissed people off about Clinton is something that still pisses them off. Sometimes, she just sickens of all the bullshit and she lets you know. In the early 1990s, when it was still unusual to see a male candidate's wife as anything other than supportive arm candy, Clinton wasn't afraid to step in it, like with her famous remark about working instead of staying home and baking chocolate chip cookies (which led to the degrading act of publishing her cookie recipe to show sexist traditionalists that they needn't be scared of the big, bad lawyer lady).

The Rude Pundit has one other theory for why conservatives have kept up their hatred of Clinton. See, when Bill's affairs started to be known beyond Arkansas, during the 1992 campaign, she famously stuck by him. That enraged the right because they hoped the feminist governor's wife would dump him and do in Clinton's pursuit of the White House. The fact that she never threw Bill under the bus when, really, who could have blamed her, undid damage to Bill every time a new sex scandal erupted. So it exacerbated their hatred because the right could never bring Hillary Clinton to heel, even when they thought her own beliefs would make her do what they wanted.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2016/...t-hillary.html

Here's the old New Yorker piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/19...hating-hillary

[vagus]

Finally subscribing to this thread. Canada watches in excitement.

[Gryffes]

This thread is very low energy.

[Fiye]

Apparently some shit went down at the Nevada Democratic Caucus. Changed their fucked up process last second to ensure that Hillary would get the proportion delegates based off the primary election and not the second round of delegates voting.

[archibaldcrane]

Bernie would've still won, but 56 of his delegates weren't registered as Democrats by the May 1st deadline (well after the primary) so they weren't counted. Same for 8 of Hillary's delegates.

Hillary won by 33, which resulted in a 2-delegate swing her direction for the national convention.

[zoobernut]

Apparently some shit went down at the Nevada Democratic Caucus. Changed their fucked up process last second to ensure that Hillary would get the proportion delegates based off the primary election and not the second round of delegates voting.

One of my friends was a delegate in Reno at the convention and she said there were fist fights and all sorts of chaos.

[Tyche]

Hillary has such an insurmountable lead at this point that I find tin foil hat theories that she is championing some cause to pick up 2 net delegates and causing fist fights inconceivable. I'm sure that those rules were made and Bernie bros got mad.

[archibaldcrane]

But thars gon b a contested convention

[Krandor]

I took it more as just another example of the inherent "corruption" in the system. When you're already winning to the degree that Hillary is, is it really necessary for her supporters to pull this kind of shit? It just further aggravates the people you want supporting her come the general.