2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[notorious bum]

Thank you, based poll gods. We gotta forward this to our pragmatic goddess ASAP.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/ma...campaign=tiles

Proposals to Deal With Affordable Care Act, by Partisanship
Democrats/Leaners% Republicans/Leaners%
Replacing the ACA with a federally funded healthcare program
providing insurance for all Americans
Favor 73 41
Oppose 22 55
Repealing the Affordable Care Act
Favor 25 80
Oppose 72 17
Keeping the Affordable Care Act in place
Favor 79 16
Oppose 19 82
Gallup, May 6-8, 2016

[Ragnus]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...mocrats-223168

"Centrist Democrats: We can work with President Trump"

[Dimmauk]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...mocrats-223168

"Centrist Democrats: We can work with President Trump"

We can thank all you dickless HillHoes for Great Leader Trump. Time to learn to speak French or Spanish.

[Dotsudoku]

I can't imagine how, if Hill were to lose the general, it could be blamed on anyone but the BernUnit

[archibaldcrane]

Bernie is going to be a distant memory by November. Unless he pulls some shit like not endorsing Hillary, her unlikely loss would be her own failure.

[Andalusian girls]

ya lo he hecho perro socialista

[Dotsudoku]

Bernie is going to be a distant memory by November. Unless he pulls some shit like not endorsing Hillary, her unlikely loss would be her own failure.

BernUnit being his voters, not him

if she were to lose, do you not think it would be by a margin small enough for stubborn youths to have closed?

[Krandor]

Depends whether or not said stubborn youths live in swing states

[archibaldcrane]

A candidate isn't entitled to 100% of her party's voters. There's usually a 10% chunk of them that vote for the other party.

[Dotsudoku]

Heh, completely unaware. That has nothing to do with independents?

[archibaldcrane]

For example, According to the 2008 exit poll, Democrats who voted for Clinton in the primaries split 83-16 for Obama-McCain

[Gredival]

Heh, completely unaware. That has nothing to do with independents?

When we talk about the "center" it's not just independents who don't register, there's the purple mix that can be swayed to vote for the other party on really fickle reasoning. Again, look at WI electing both Russ Feingold and Scott Walker.

[Dimmauk]

For example, According to the 2008 exit poll, Democrats who voted for Clinton in the primaries split 83-16 for Obama-McCain

16% were probably all old white racist democrats.

[archibaldcrane]

When we talk about the "center" it's not just independents who don't register, there's the purple mix that can be swayed to vote for the other party on really fickle reasoning. Again, look at WI electing both Russ Feingold and Scott Walker.

That's more of a turnout issue though.

[Andalusian girls]

last primaries of significance before Gotterdammerung on June 7th. looks like Kentucky will more or less be a delegate tie (Bernie up by 0.6% with 14% in), and it would be semi-shocking if he lost a quite white and extremely liberal Oregon, especially given his unfettered dominance in neighboring Washington, so he should emerge from tonight as the clear net winner.

the results do not alter his mathematical doom of course, but it does reaffirm the notion wide swaths of the Democratic Party (both primaries are closed today) continue to reject Hillary in favor of Bern's economic populism, a faultline Donald will clearly try to exploit.

[Minions]

last primaries of significance before Gotterdammerung on June 7th. looks like Kentucky will more or less be a delegate tie (Bernie up by 0.6% with 14% in), and it would be semi-shocking if he lost a quite white and extremely liberal Oregon, especially given his unfettered dominance in neighboring Washington, so he should emerge from tonight as the clear net winner.

the results do not alter his mathematical doom of course, but it does reaffirm the notion wide swaths of the Democratic Party (both primaries are closed today) continue to reject Hillary in favor of Bern's economic populism, a faultline Donald will clearly try to exploit.

Bernie wins in states where lots of young and/or white voters are the majority. Everywhere else he tends to lose. I wouldn't call that "wide". It would be wider if he were on the GOP side as that is a huge part of their electorate.

The videos coming out of Nevada are freaking crazy. People cursing and throwing chairs and stuff. Looked like a Trump Rally.

[Ragnus]

Well, I mean, what happened in Nevada was some borderline GoP levels of myopic bullshit.

[Krandor]

People cursing and throwing chairs and stuff. Looked like a Trump Rally.

There's a common theme in what happened in Nevada and the Trump rallies that make the news cycle for this kind of behavior.

[Krandor]

That theme is Bernie supporters btw

[Andalusian girls]

Bernie wins in states where lots of young and/or white voters are the majority. Everywhere else he tends to lose. I wouldn't call that "wide". It would be wider if he were on the GOP side as that is a huge part of their electorate.

The videos coming out of Nevada are freaking crazy. People cursing and throwing chairs and stuff. Looked like a Trump Rally.

the Democratic party is still 50%+ white and the 18-29 bracket is by far their most favorable age grouping. it's wide enough to be of concern.

Well, I mean, what happened in Nevada was some borderline GoP levels of myopic bullshit.

truly it was an ignominious violation of democracy for the clear winner of a primary to recieve the majority of delegates