2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[Anoat]

Trump is gonna win. Sigh.

[Melena]

Trump is gonna win. Sigh.

What makes you say that? Because of the supposed next wave of e-mail leaks, or the guaranteed poll bump every candidate gets after their convention? I mean I find it funny that Anon is supposed to be all about that social justice and progressive rights and yet they seem hellbent to fuck the world for the next 30-40 years by trying to screw Hilary.

[Ksandra]

What makes you say that?

I agree with Anoat. Trump has had a snowball effect of gathering more and more to his side, and there has yet to be anything anyone has been able to throw at him to reduce his steam. Whereas there has been nonstop stuff coming from Clinton to reduce her numbers.

It's not just an rnc bump, it's a bump that will stick, while she slowly deflates bit by bit.


Unless someone can find something to unravel the Trump Train, be prepared to have him in office.

[Melena]

It's way too early to panic. Now if come early november before the election and he's still polling 5+% above her, then i'd worry. Republicans waited until it was way too late, I can't wait to see Trump get swiftboated in the coming months.

[Mertron]

DWS no longer gaveling in or speaking at the convention

sanders just gave a speech to the delegates imploring them to support Clinton. got a mix of cheers and boos

[Boyiee]

Shit will change a lot with debates.

[kuronosan]

People say that every time.

[Tyrath]

Because they do.

[Ragnus]

Shit will change a lot with debates.

Pretty much my thoughts on this also. I know Kuro has vast amounts of ground to stand on, but Clinton is going to be heading into every debate thristing for blood. She needs to let the debates not get off topic and stay up Trump's ass when he tries to dodge.

[Anoat]

Trump people are already locked on Trump 100% and I don't think there is anything that could convince them otherwise. Most of the Dems were already split between Bernie and Hillary as it was but now they seem to be distancing themselves farther from Hillary as the days go by. And then you have people who won't be bothered to vote for either and will try to make a statement vote (or garbage vote depending on your state/personal opinion) by going with Gary Johnson. Trump also has the older white religious republican demographic on lock and those motherfuckers ALWAYS vote. Hillary is gonna largely depend on youth, African American and Latino voters who traditionally...don't, 2008 Obama being a rare exception.

I hope I'm wrong but between all that I don't see Trump losing.

[Tyche]

I don't think anonymous is behind these email leaks lol. Not at all. If they are, and want to go with a scorched earth policy because Bernie is an old white guy that had no chance of winning, then they deserve the cyber policies a republican presidency and congress would ram down their throat.

[Blubbartron]

I was under the impression that debates don't really matter in the grand scheme of things, mostly because the idiot independent "undecided" voters don't decide until 2-3 days before voting at most. Those are the swing votes that win elections. I think that the debates will be interesting, but the thing that will determine the election is the flurry of ads being run in November.

[kisada]

I agree with Anoat. Trump has had a snowball effect of gathering more and more to his side, and there has yet to be anything anyone has been able to throw at him to reduce his steam. Whereas there has been nonstop stuff coming from Clinton to reduce her numbers.

It's not just an rnc bump, it's a bump that will stick, while she slowly deflates bit by bit.


Unless someone can find something to unravel the Trump Train, be prepared to have him in office.

dem's trump oppo train is barely starting to get rolling (thanks, bernie!), but we'll see it accelerate into full force this week by the conclusion of the DNC. pretty much when it does things should swing back pretty hard. and trump is going to look like an even more of a disaster of a candidate when they go to head to head debates.

[Melena]

Trump people are already locked on Trump 100% and I don't think there is anything that could convince them otherwise. Most of the Dems were already split between Bernie and Hillary as it was but now they seem to be distancing themselves farther from Hillary as the days go by. And then you have people who won't be bothered to vote for either and will try to make a statement vote (or garbage vote depending on your state/personal opinion) by going with Gary Johnson. Trump also has the older white religious republican demographic on lock and those motherfuckers ALWAYS vote. Hillary is gonna largely depend on youth, African American and Latino voters who traditionally...don't, 2008 Obama being a rare exception.

I hope I'm wrong but between all that I don't see Trump losing.

While not as vocal as Bernie Bros, there are a lot of republicans who will not vote Trump and a few have even endorsed Hilary over Trump. Trump is pandering to the far right crazy that has yet to win an election. It failed when McCain took Palin as VP, and it failed again last election. Cruz refusing to endorse Trump as well at the convention was the single biggest middle finger anyone could extend towards Trump prior to the real debates. Trump gets by on debates by saying insane shit then ducking and weaving when he's confronted. As already stated, Hilary isn't going to back down on that and trump is eventually going to corner himself.

[6souls]

I was under the impression that debates don't really matter in the grand scheme of things, mostly because the idiot independent "undecided" voters don't decide until 2-3 days before voting at most. Those are the swing votes that win elections. I think that the debates will be interesting, but the thing that will determine the election is the flurry of ads being run in November.

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[Melena]

I don't think anonymous is behind these email leaks lol. Not at all. If they are, and want to go with a scorched earth policy because Bernie is an old white guy that had no chance of winning, then they deserve the cyber policies a republican presidency and congress would ram down their throat.

If I recall, this is one of the main twitters that Anon uses, and they've been riding Assagne's dick ever since Wikileaks first came out.

[6souls]

https://news.vice.com/article/bernie...ry-clinton-dnc

Sanders was the DNC opener where he told his delegates to vote for Hilldog, he was booed.

[Olo401]

I don't think anonymous is behind these email leaks lol. Not at all. If they are, and want to go with a scorched earth policy because Bernie is an old white guy that had no chance of winning, then they deserve the cyber policies a republican presidency and congress would ram down their throat.

We already know that it wasn't Anonymous - the hack of the DNC happened over a month ago and was widely reported as a Russian govt action. We also know that because Wikileaks released the docs, that they were given to them from the Russian govt either directly or through their puppet Snowden.

My issues start with the credit card info. That should should've been blacked out and Wikileaks knows it, but they don't give a shit just like they didn't give a shit when they dumped the personal & govt info of thousands of Turkish female election workers. What really bugs me tho is the fact that Wikileaks and the Russian govt are working together to destabilize our election just like they do to other countries all over the place, that it's blatantly obvious, and that a lotta people in this country refuse to even see that fact because they're too wrapped up in OMG HILLARY LOCK HER UP!

[Blubbartron]

If you're destabilizing an election by exposing corruption, I have zero issue with what you're doing. I'll be pleased as punch to get pissed at the Russians when they do the kind of bullshit we do in controlling governments of other countries. Until then, no fucks given. Putin rides bears and shit.

[Melena]

If you're destabilizing an election by exposing corruption, I have zero issue with what you're doing. I'll be pleased as punch to get pissed at the Russians when they do the kind of bullshit we do in controlling governments of other countries. Until then, no fucks given. Putin rides bears and shit.

Only everything they have leaked as been about as credible as the multiple benghazi hearings. Hell the shit they leaked concerning Turkey's dicate err I mean President, not only didn't reveal anything new, revealed the address of every voting female in the country as well as voting habits of them.