2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[tyven]

I appreciate that you have the patience to mine the internet for commentary, and bring us the best of it.

shhhhh

[Infini]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c39_story.html

dude has been killing it since his speech. every single thing coming out of his mouth is amazing and on point. dude needs as much hype as possible

Gotta hammer home the message that Donald Dump is an utter Gobshite that doesn't deserve to be anywhere near that office and that hes completely incompetent. He's basically riding a wave of angry disenfranchised people sick of the bull otherwise he'd crashed and burned long before now. People can dislike Hillary of course but even those who support Sanders shouldnt necessarily not vote as Bernie still would've made enough of a point to show that things in general need to change in order to retain relevancy.

Last thing anyone needs right now it a repeat of the shenanigans of the Dubya years with extra saltyness....

[kuronosan]

My problem with Busters is that they'll totally undo any progress that Bernie has made in bringing progressivism to the limelight all to protest "Hillary's Coronation" because they're too short-sighted to see what took me a while to realize - that the President really can't do shit without Congress anyway. So much like people thought electing Obama would bring a new era of hope (and they fucked it up mid terms) they somehow think the same of "Bernie the traitor".

I watched Obama's DNC speech, and he was dead on. It's not about winning the Presidency (but that's important), it's about electing progressive senators, representatives, and government in general in order to get things done. Bernie, without a good Congress, would be just as deadlocked as Obama.

Hell, in his speech I really got the feeling that Obama is HOPEFUL that people elect Hillary AND a good Congress so that things he wanted to do could get done. You could hear in his voice that he's sick of all this shit too.

Honestly, if you watched the DNC speeches at all (Both Bernie and Obama especially) and still think voting for Trump is a good idea, or that voting 3rd party is most assuredly going to send a message it won't actually send, you're a fucking tool. Sorry. You indeed have the right to vote for whomever you want to. You don't have the right to fuck it up for the rest of us.

[kisada]

well, i'd bet on dems getting enough seats back to matter personally. but even if it doesn't happen that way america still wins just by way of hillary electing a liberal justice and then likely another one once RGB decides to peace out.

[Fiye]

Johnson has nothing remotely similar to Bernie.

Jill Stein thinks there needs to be more scrutiny on vaccines. http://puu.sh/qlx8s/8d312bf635.jpg

A vote for anyone but Hillary a vote for Donald at this point.

[thetruepandagod]

heheheheheheehe.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...errorists.html
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securit...ies-cashed-in/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-de...e-come-sooner/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-...ics-justified/

>Boko Haram kills 10,000 Nigerian villagers
>FBI, Congress, CIA, and Justice Department all recommend Hillary Clinton's State Department classify them as a terrorist organization
>people in the U.S. are banned from doing business or associating with terrorist organizations
>Hillary Clinton refuses to classify them the whole time she is in office and no one could figure out why
>turns out individuals buying stolen Boko Haram gold and developing stolen Boko Haram oil fields are donating massively to her campaign fund and the Clinton Foundation

[archibaldcrane]

Sounds like there was a broad coalition of experts in Nigerian policy from a bunch of different American universities who also didn't want Boko Haram classified as such either.

http://carllevan.com/2012/05/boko-ha...from-scholars/

Link to the letter (pdf) http://carllevan.com/wp-content/uplo...o-Clinton4.pdf

[Qalbert]

heheheheheheehe.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...errorists.html
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securit...ies-cashed-in/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-de...e-come-sooner/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-...ics-justified/

>Boko Haram kills 10,000 Nigerian villagers
>FBI, Congress, CIA, and Justice Department all recommend Hillary Clinton's State Department classify them as a terrorist organization
>people in the U.S. are banned from doing business or associating with terrorist organizations
>Hillary Clinton refuses to classify them the whole time she is in office and no one could figure out why
>turns out individuals buying stolen Boko Haram gold and developing stolen Boko Haram oil fields are donating massively to her campaign fund and the Clinton Foundation

are you saying clinton is some sort of Haram bae

[Andalusian girls]

the provided summarizations are a mix of distortions and outright lies, from the linked articles themselves

Counterterrorism officials in the State Department, Justice Department and FBI all favored officially designating the group as an "official terrorist organization" based on intelligence that some of its members were tied to al Qaeda. The Bureau of African Affairs - and, notably, Nigerian leaders - did not.

The rift was the product of questions about whether official designation would elevate Boko Haram's status by providing international focus to a domestic militant group, and also give the notoriously brutal Nigerian military license to use unbridled force against any and all opposition. Additionally, designation posed complications for any aid workers who wanted to help out in the northern territory controlled by Boko Haram.

Clinton landed on splitting the difference. In a decision made jointly by African Affairs and the Counterterrorism Bureau, the State Department designated as terrorists three Boko Haram individuals - leader Abubakar Shekau and senior leaders Khalid al-Barnawi and Abubakar Adam Kambar - rather than the group as a whole.

anyone with a passing knowledge of Nigeria would recognize the absurdity of the claim that Hillary refused to label them a terrorist group because Boko Haram-derived oil money was being donated "massively" to Clinton's campaign fund. Boko Haram is an insurgency active in the northern and Muslim regions of Nigeria based around the Fulani and Hausan peoples, whereas the Nigerian petroleum industry is very heavily concentrated along the coastal Niger Delta of southern Nigeria populated by the Christian Ijaws and Igbos and Edos and a dozen other ethnolinguistic groups that can't even speak the Arabic Boko Haram uses.

one can argue the merits of the approach Obama and Clinton took to Boko Haram, but when presented in the above manner it is yet more baseless character defamation designed to portray policy nuance as personal corruption.

[thetruepandagod]

Hillary is a beautiful woman who dindu nuffin

[thetruepandagod]

real talk tho, she got julia louis dryfus syndrome and just gets better like wine. Hillary in her 30's was ughhhh

[Headspace]

Johnson has nothing remotely similar to Bernie.

Jill Stein thinks there needs to be more scrutiny on vaccines. http://puu.sh/qlx8s/8d312bf635.jpg

A vote for anyone but Hillary a vote for Donald at this point.

Liberalism is where you are justifiably upset about vaccine skepticism but have no problem with child drone murder.


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[Day]

Hm I actually agree with that one Heady

[Mertron]

im ok with child drone murder

[tyven]

Liberalism is where you are justifiably upset about vaccine skepticism but have no problem with child drone murder.


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hey i think i follow the source of this one on twitter.

[Ragnus]

Wait, so does that mean that Heady is pretty much just a talking points robot at this point?

[Olo401]

Liberalism is where you are justifiably upset about vaccine skepticism but have no problem with child drone murder.

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No, Liberalism is wanting to do something about both rather than performing a pointless equivalence test.

[BerenTebogo]

Technically, unvaccinated kids pose a much more real and immediate risk to Americans than drones do so

[tyven]

Wait, so does that mean that Heady is pretty much just a talking points robot at this point?

he copy/pastes hilarious shit from reddit you dummies

[BerenTebogo]

he copy/pastes hilarious shit from reddit you dummies