2016 USA Presidential election thread I: The warm-up

[The Blackrose]

Queen is great if it's another chump. For Walker, it's a bit personal.

I've been waiting for this fucker to burn for 10+ years now.

[Serra]

Don't worry, there's still fourteen more candidates to go~

[Cantih]

Colbert's gonna get that Stanley Tucci getup back out on Monday!

[archibaldcrane]

I'm frankly surprised how quickly he crashed and burned.

Let the scramble for Koch money begin!

[Andalusian girls]

Gracias adiós

[Cantih]

Let the scramble for Koch money begin!

Need an odds table for Koch suckers!

[The Blackrose]

WTS 2 freshly pulled out Kochs. PST.

[6souls]

[kuronosan]

Is anyone really surprised that these pharmaceutical companies see cheap, necessary medication as cash cows?

The problem is the fucking companies (and capitalism). If the world's only water supplier bought all the other ones tomorrow, you better fucking believe they'll raise the price of Evian to $100/12pk.

[Roranora]

I don't think it's so much surprise; it's more the defeated feeling associated with these companies and capitalism and the wake they leave.

WTS 2 freshly pulled out Kochs. PST.

heh.. surely this dialogue is happening in some fashion

[Gredival]

Democrats: No real change to report (Hilldog remains in the 42-47 range; Sanders in the 24-27 range). Worth noting, CNN finds that the majority of Biden's supporters are pulled from Hilldog (around 15 out of his 20%).

Politico reporting on the same poll saying that the numbers are significant in that it seems Hillary has stemmed the bleeding, 42 (up 5) to 24 (down 3) compared to two weeks ago. Biden is at 22% but if he doesn't run Clinton leaps to 57 vs. Bernie's 28.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...en-2016-213870

[Gredival]

Parting shot at Trump

“I encourage other Republican presidential candidates to consider doing the same, so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive conservative alternative to the current front-runner.”

[Roranora]

“I encourage other Republican presidential candidates to consider doing the same, so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates who can offer a positive conservative alternative to the current front-runner.”

He's so right. I'd like to see 9 or so of the pretenders just drop off within 24 hours. A big fuck off to Trump

[Gredival]

Honestly with the exception of immigration, and now gun control (which is a shift right from his previous positions in his book), Trump is further to the left than most of the field. He's previously been pro-choice, pro-taxes on the rich, and took a much softer line on gay marriage than the other candidates. The fact that he's kept 30% of the base enthralled despite all that just points to how much a) immigration and skepticism of the political elite matter to Republican primary voters and b) the fact that lying like you're made of Teflon can convince people in politics.

[Roranora]

Yeah, I meant 'correct' not right in the spectrum of how we measure political thought.

I will say "skepticism of the political elite" is the one nonpartisan part of this. And Trump's disruption of our bullshit red-vs-blue system is in fact welcome.

[Sho]

NYT as well - http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...idential-race/

I did not expect him to get reamed this soon, but

LMAO. Actually some of us had been predicting this drop out for over 2 months now. Donald Trump is indirectly the reason.

Expect Jindal, Graham, Huckabee, Santorum, and Christie to drop out of the race as well in less than 2 months.

If Kasich and Bush can hold on for at least 4-5 more dropouts, they will win big by virtue of becoming establishment, but moderate alternatives to the current leading three.

[Sho]

Speaking of, I don't think Trump will last beyond December now.

[Ksandra]

Chris Wallace called out Fiorina for her fetus on the table statement:

[Tyrath]

LOL she doubled down on her claim that the video exists.

[Sho]

I'm not going to call her an idiot on that subject. In fact, she's pretty smart to pander to her constituents who are less than informed. She jumped in the polls solely based on the authority of how she made the statement (the imagery of her "conviction" when making the statement). She gets a huge bump in the polls when it counted and will escape the fact that it was a fake portion of the movie when fully outed. The people who are fully convinced to defund planned parenthood for whatever reason will jump on this.

Chris Wallace with that decent journalism for once. We give Trump shit for being a pompous asshole, but Fiorina is the real deal scumbag type of politician who we shouldn't trust, despite the side of the aisle we fall on.