Feb. 18 2015 Alluvion Skirmish Augments Data Collection

[stamos]

Blu Cure Set





Hybrid set that doesn't kill DPS(missing body still)

[Protey]

So haste is possible. ARGH.
Now what do I do on my telchine legs sigh...
Updating the table btw.

So I guess so far the only important missing staff is Magic Damage?



@Ophannus
Nobody said that the possible 4th augment slot can't be stats that we've already seen in the three other slots.
It could be a compilation of stats already present from the previous 3 slots, so that you can get even more, or have more choices.
Example: Damn I had to take DW from Leaf stones on this piece. Wish TA didn't take the same slot!
DANG! 4th slot offers various (not all) options from Snow, Leaf and Dusk. You can now use the 4th slot to get TA and keep DW at the same time.
Example2: Damn all this Att from Snowslit is nice! Wish I could have more.
TA-DAH! Can get even more attack from the 4ht slot and sum it up with the one you already have.

I mean, not saying it's gonna be this way, but no reason why it couldn't.

inb4 the 4th slot ends up being PDT/MDT.

[Protey]

also, add regen potency with duskdim. don't know if it is telchine exclusive though.

[dasva]

inb4 the 4th slot ends up being PDT/MDT.

But we already have that . Heck we already have DT

[Nocki]

Blu Cure Set
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Damn you, I have been trying for potency and I'm out of Leafdims now. =(

But we already have that . Heck we already have DT

Would you happen to know what stone this is from? I want it on shield.

[Tile]

Would you happen to know what stone this is from? I want it on shield.

i got it from leafdim+1 on my shield for -7%, let me know if you get higher cause I've seen blockrate +9 (Snowslit) already

[dasva]

Would you happen to know what stone this is from? I want it on shield.

DT? Leaf something the guy said he thinks dim. He got 7dt, 7 block rate (says he's seem 9 though) with Snowslit+2 and 7 skill on shield with duskslit +1.

That actually might compete with ochain in terms of dmg blocked overall especially on stuff that is only 119 and such. iirc killedar was about 27% block rate against 126 mobs... so the extra skill from a 119 shield + augment should bump that up to like 31 then if that block rate is straight percentage up to 40.. with reprisal up that would be 60% with a much higher block dmg... think that would be close but gotta look up martels numbers to go further. Also gotta figure out if we can get that skill on armor (pretty sure I've seen the dt) as that would be rather sick. And you'd still be able to throw acc on with snow

It looks to me like old pdt (and maybe the other DT) stones now also get DT on a rare chance. Since we getting reports of DT/pet dt from leaf where it didn't have it before. Seems less common to me though. Like I've seen about 20 or so total pet pdt using leaforbs ranging from 3-5 but only once saw pet dt and it was only 1%

[Sechs]

-3% Delay on weapon with Duskslit °-°

[Martel]

Some stuff I got while trying for haste+ on Acro.

leaftip: recycle,enemy crit-,sublte blow, and enmity-

[Sephoroth]

I had Phalanx +2 on Taeon tights, so not exclusive.

[Sechs]

But we already have that . Heck we already have DT

Because getting some inventory space back by condensating sets instead of having 2000000000 situational different items would be sooooooo bad, inorite?

[stamos]

Anyone get high acc/attack on the Helios set? Spammed some Snowslit stones and was getting a lot of +1 acc/1 attack. Even with the +1 stones, only going up to 8 acc

[Sechs]

Well we always assumed augments to have the same cap regardless of set.
If it turns out the cap changes according to set it's going to be a major disappointment =/

I got acc+20 with Snowslit+1 on Telchine though, so that sounds unlikely.

[dasva]

Because getting some inventory space back by condensating sets instead of having 2000000000 situational different items would be sooooooo bad, inorite?

Would having more pdt/mdt on it on top of what you can already get really condense things though? Especially when you would probably be choosing between other stats? Unless meant that's all it gives then ok I guess but I really doubt they'd do that

[dasva]

Anyone get high acc/attack on the Helios set? Spammed some Snowslit stones and was getting a lot of +1 acc/1 attack. Even with the +1 stones, only going up to 8 acc

Shit odds are shit unless you use +2. I've gotten as low as +1 with a +1 stone and I think up to 15ish with nq. When I was going for mab I got meva half the time lol. This event is RNG hell. Because the stats are so good you have to try but that kick in the balls 19/20 tries though.

[dasva]

I had Phalanx +2 on Taeon tights, so not exclusive.

What stone and quality?

[Sechs]

Would having more pdt/mdt on it on top of what you can already get really condense things though?

I dunno. It would make me trash some Hagondes/Otronif/Gendewitha for sure though. Not all, but most? Yes.

Especially when you would probably be choosing between other stats?

Well yes but the way he made it sound I got it as "4th augment is just DT stuff" like PDT, MDT, PDT/MDT, DT, BDT etc. If it were like that I'd totally be happy. (like you I doubt that's what will happen though, just sayin I wouldn't mind it at all)
Way more than Job Specific augments.
They need to stop giving important and job-changing JS stats relied on random augments.
They need to be FIXED bonuses gdi, not random shit.
JSE capes didn't teach us anything? Watch out what you dream for, folks >.>

[Martel]

DT? Leaf something the guy said he thinks dim. He got 7dt, 7 block rate (says he's seem 9 though) with Snowslit+2 and 7 skill on shield with duskslit +1.

That actually might compete with ochain in terms of dmg blocked overall especially on stuff that is only 119 and such. iirc killedar was about 27% block rate against 126 mobs... so the extra skill from a 119 shield + augment should bump that up to like 31 then if that block rate is straight percentage up to 40.. with reprisal up that would be 60% with a much higher block dmg... think that would be close but gotta look up martels numbers to go further. Also gotta figure out if we can get that skill on armor (pretty sure I've seen the dt) as that would be rather sick. And you'd still be able to throw acc on with snow

It looks to me like old pdt (and maybe the other DT) stones now also get DT on a rare chance. Since we getting reports of DT/pet dt from leaf where it didn't have it before. Seems less common to me though. Like I've seen about 20 or so total pet pdt using leaforbs ranging from 3-5 but only once saw pet dt and it was only 1%

For 126 mobs, it looks like this.

Assuming +7 shield, Blockrate +9 augs.

126	Priwen	Reprisal Svalin SvalinnAug Reprisal Ochain Reprisal
Block%	30.21	90.63	 37	40.5	   60.75    70.23  100
DMG%-	-88	-88	-88	-88	   -88	    -66	   -66
TotalPDT-26.5	-79.7	-32.5	-35.6	   -53.4    -46.3  -66

But at 119 it seems to be as you suspect. Keep in mind. I don't actually have any level 119 data. I'm just projecting the difference based on known block rate math.

119      Priwen Reprisal* SvalinnAug Reprisal Ochain Reprisal
Block%   40.74  100       51.03      76.54    80.76   100
DMG%-    -88    -88       -88        -88      -66     -66
TotalPDT-35.8   -88       -44.9      -67.3    -53.3   -66

*I don't think Priwen can actually cap block rate.
Highest I've observed was about 98%, when it should have overcapped

So, with reprisal, it can exceed Ochain total dmg- on 119 mobs. Slightly. But Ochain still has greater reliability. And Ochain is better if reprisal goes down.

If you want a shield that's only better with reprisal up, just use Priwen. And spare yourself the augment pain.

[dasva]

So, with reprisal, it can exceed Ochain total dmg- on 119 mobs. Slightly. But Ochain still has greater reliability. And Ochain is better if reprisal goes down.

If you want a shield that's only better with reprisal up, just use Priwen. And spare yourself the augment pain.

Yeah I figured something like that might be the case... but on somewhat lower mobs or some more skill on armor it might get interesting. Assuming you can get that 7 on armor (or possibly higher don't know if there is a cap yet) put that on head hands and legs then use various shield skill pieces you could get that block rate much higher. Maybe high to consider putting def on the shield. Think that goes to 20 right?

Or even better if you can get block rate on armor lol. But yeah doubt that one.

Sure it's a lot of work but would be neet to maybe get a shield with dt and blocking 98% dmg

[Protey]

for the phalanx+ gear, is that at casting or do you need to fulltime the gear?