Vagary Findings

[Cyleena]

Also, no we did not charge the pug ppl for win before anyone throws that out there...

[Hoshiku]

He quoted Univarsity who quoted Ejiin. Perhaps English isn't your first language. Maybe you find it hard to understand context?

[Fival]

Regardless, posting multiple screenshots of drops in this thread while side stepping talk of strategy; doing it once to confirm your own strategy works is understandable, but repeating it just feels like bragging. Then to keep claiming you still don't fully know but have some guy shouting for pickups that you guys can guarantee pop & win kind of makes you look like liars.

[NynJa]

The amount of idiots thinking their dick is huge because "FIRST LOL ILL SELL WINS FOR 50 MIL" need to go back to XIV.

[Byrthnoth]

Interesting. Were you 1shotting the elementals by chance or did 2-3 people successfully land a MB before it died?

We were mostly one-shotting, but a few two-shots. Typically it was 10k+ damage Impacts. We did it third, and we were fighting Thunder elementals. I'll note that this was after clearing everything up to Thunder Elementals with tier 1 skillchain + tier 1 MB. We accidentally popped the Tier 4 with that when fighting earth elementals and were afraid it might have reset our count, so we kept doing it up through Wind elementals. Then we pulled/killed the Umbril, AoE'd his hybrid elementals to death, and popped Plouton about 6-7 Thunder Elementals in (all Impact or Comet kills).

As a related note, Perfidien's pop condition isn't 4-step light, it's just 4-step skillchain. We popped him with Jinpu spam.

[Cyleena]

I guess you do not understand where I was coming from with that Hoshiku. It was mentioned that we were "hiding" the strat to sell wins, and once Ejiin said he popped it, Univarsity said it ruined that ls from selling wins (which I believe he was talking about my ls), which is not necessarily our goal. Love how people jump to conclusions over stuff. I did not post the ss, that was coming from happy/excited ppl that we got the wins, so ppl should not hate over that...you guys would be proud of your ls if you did it too. I was in town and did not see a guarantee win shout, I saw a win do you need it in the pug shout...nothing is guaranteed and if someone shouted that it was not accurate. We been trying different stuff out to see if/how it affects it before posting a bunch of inaccurate crap on here that this bg forums gets enough of... I already started saying in other thread, and some of my other members have said what we are trying and what hasn't worked. As far as what does work, we did not even bring sam in our setup, and like I said in other post we will be posting more details later. Reason being is that we had people in charge of SC, ppl in charge of MB, and most them are in bed now since its EU shell. I did not lead these runs but was busy on whm curing people.

[Ramzii]

Side note: you can't perform the 6 step SC on the NMs, has to be an elemental it seems

[Cyleena]

And as far as selling stuff most of all the servers are guilty of that...ppl still sell delve wins/gear from higher content battles, etc. There is almost shouts daily on Asura for that stuff...and it is not my shell doing it.

[Cyleena]

Side note: you can't perform the 6 step SC on the NMs, has to be an elemental it seems

Yes, SC and MB on ele to upgrade. Not on NM. This is confirmed.

[Ramzii]

Did 12 Comet MABs, got message
did 6 step light, got message
did over 15 magic kills, no message. We suspected our comets may have counted towards the magic kills, but 8 more comet MABs didn't do anything

[Cyleena]

Did 12 Comet MABs, got message
did 6 step light, got message
did over 15 magic kills, no message. We suspected our comets may have counted towards the magic kills, but 8 more comet MABs didn't do anything

Don't use comet, use opposite element of the elemental for MB. For example, Ice elemental MB with Fire, etc. This has worked for us. We are still working out details on some stuff to confirm but this seems like it always works, so it is pretty much confirmed from what we have seen that it needs to be opposite element for MB.

[Ramzii]

another note on MB: don't need to do big damage/kill shot on comet. we got message on a resisted comet that didn't kill

[Tatham]

Did 12 Comet MABs, got message
did 6 step light, got message
did over 15 magic kills, no message. We suspected our comets may have counted towards the magic kills, but 8 more comet MABs didn't do anything

As a member of the team that took Plouton down three times tonight with Cyleena I can tell you that you're wasting your time with Comet MB'ing off Darkness SC. It's a shame I cannot post URL images yet as that would be some evidence.

Cyleena is right. MB the opposing element to whichever Elemental you are fighting off a skillchain.

[Ramzii]

okay well we are getting the message so it's not like it's not working

[Tatham]

You're getting the message associated with a number of indiscriminate magic kills, nothing more.

[Fival]

Poped it 3 times with comet/impact, not sure how this is time wasted.

[Tatham]

Bit rich coming from me I know but, pics?

Ah, lookie. Can post them now.

[EjinCaitsith]

This event... jesus christ.

Just killed 20+ elementals in a row with SC>tier1 MB without a single upgrade, then on the last, I got both KI upgrades at exactly the same time. 12K-ish aero1 MB seemed to be what proc'd them.

[Cyleena]

This event... jesus christ.

Just killed 20+ elementals in a row with SC>tier1 MB without a single upgrade, then on the last, I got both KI upgrades at exactly the same time. a 12K-ish aero1 MB seemed to be what proc'd it.

We also had times upgrades were slow.

[Hoshiku]

We're about to pop our 4th plouton of the night. We think it's impact but we are absolutely not magic bursting weakness element. We spammed that for two nights and never got anything from it.