Vagary Findings

[Cyleena]

We're about to pop our 4th plouton of the night. We think it's impact but we are absolutely not magic bursting weakness element. We spammed that for two nights and never got anything from it.

We did not use impact.

[Ramzii]

I just said that we got the message without killing it on comet, so it's not magic kills

[Wardeniii]

Only one of those is something we do to spawn it (>.o) and that trigger isn't even in the right spot in your order. Maybe the order doesn't matter? You should test the order, we're done for today, we were going to post how we spawned it 3 times now, but we don't want to be wrong. (._.; )

Are there any mods left to remove this garbage?

[Hoshiku]

We also think killing is not required for the mb as we've seen it just after Fiv casts impact a couple of times.

[Fival]

So we poped our 4th, basically we enter, make darkness on fire eles and magic burst dark based (impact, comet, lunar bay, noctohelix), multiple people bursting each time. Takes about 10 i think, when we run out of fire elementals we go to wind and we usually get the upgrade. Then we do magic kills and get that upgrade in 10ish magic kills. Then the 6 step light on an earth elemental is guaranteed pop.

Not sure if multiple people have to magic burst, they are all done on 2 step darkness and usually its impact & lunar bay with lunar bay killing, however its been mentioned that the upgrade can happen before the elemental dies, from the impact MB before the lunar bay MB kills it, but can't completely confirm that. Either way, magic bursting dark based damage works.

[Ramzii]

You skip ice and earth for magic kills? How are you even doing multiple dark nukes? Comet was doing 30k+

[Cyleena]

If that is working for you then great but from our experience we never did impact in our runs. Looking forward to seeing the ss of your wins when you beat it.

[nivlakian]

You skip ice and earth for magic kills? How are you even doing multiple dark nukes? Comet was doing 30k+

The image I posted earlier shows the sort of damage we are doing. Malaise is not being used if it matters.

[EjinCaitsith]

Just did Impact MBs on all the fire and air elementals and no upgrade. Is it bad we're 1shotting them with 12-20K Impacts using malaise and acumen?

Edit:

Went on to Rana>Shoha aero1 MB 4-5 earth elementals and got both upgrades.

[nivlakian]

If that is working for you then great but from our experience we never did impact in our runs. Looking forward to seeing the ss of your wins when you beat it.

[Tatham]

Nice.

[Hoshiku]

I stopped using acumen after we failed to get the message our 2nd run when our darkness damage was doing so much that 2 people didn't land something on each ele. We don't know if it's a requirement that the mb doesn't kill the ele or that 2 of them must happen, or a certain damage range. Every run we've gotten that upgrade we've had 2 darkness mb on each ele, some combination of lunar bay, impact, and comet.

[Fival]

Ya we never got it to upgrade when we one shot, thats why im curious if multiple people have to land a magic burst, we toned down the damage.

[Ramzii]

We get message from magic burst 1 shotting comet

[Cyleena]

I am sure SE did not make it so only just one way works. We did not use impact or comet, but used opposite element of the ele we were fighting, which worked for us. Congratulations on your win.

[Tatham]

I am sure SE did not make it so only just one way works. We did not use impact or comet, but used opposite element of the ele we were fighting, which worked for us. Congratulations on your win.

Seconded. We never used Impact or Comet, indicates that there is more than one way to pop him.

[The Assman]

We did magic kills with opposing elements (ignored dual elementals) -> cycled through the 4 light-type elements (I THINK fire->wind->lighting->light, but don't quote me on that) starting with a baelfyr and then a gefyrst--not necessarily matching elements with the elemental -> SC -> popped Plouton.

[Tachi]

Does someone who possess both Ashen and False King KIs managed to pop Plouton before Perfidien or to get an upgrade msg on False King KI before Ashen KI?

[Fival]

We popped both in the same run, yes.

We were getting both upgrade messages as we went to prep skillchains and we had to nuke the elemental really fast cause our samurai was intending to pop both at the same time. After we killed legs guy we went and popped body guy.

[Khelek]

We did magic kills with opposing elements (ignored dual elementals) -> cycled through the 4 light-type elements (I THINK fire->wind->lighting->light, but don't quote me on that) starting with a baelfyr and then a gefyrst--not necessarily matching elements with the elemental -> SC -> popped Plouton.

Can second this. most of the bursts were light dmg (holy 2 and helix) and not all were killshots, some died to the dot.