Vagary Findings

[hyorinmaruu]

make sure your samurai does 1-2-3 meditate then 4-5-6

[Ramzii]

you don't need to meditate at all with soboro

[hyorinmaruu]

well some guy tried to tell a samurai how to play his job so i thought id let the community know how to play sam

[Saevel]

Well ... something that was in all our kills but might be different for everyone else. All those SC+MB kills were chained because of how fast we were moving through them. The death after the tenth or twelfth chained elemental is when it upgraded, we also don't bother with the hybrid elementals and just had our nukers blow em up.

[EjinCaitsith]

I call bullshit on this right here, and here's why.

I can tell you without a doubt that it works. There's just something specific we're missing for the exact method to get the MB related upgrade. Some groups are in the sweet spot with how much damage they are doing and how many MBs they are doing per elemental. For example, if you're 1 shotting every elemental with a tier1 and you're not getting upgrades, try taking some gear off and allowing 1 or 2 more people MB also. The impact method seems more reliable in general, but we've also had it take around 20 elementals to get an upgrade using that too.

We managed to kill 5 or 6 Ploutons tonight and I honestly couldn't tell you what exactly got us the MB upgrade in any given run. We got it in as few as 6 fire elemental kills and as much as killing every single fire/air/earth/ice/thunder elemental and getting it on literally the last elemental we had available to kill.

[Cyleena]

Another thing I have not seen mentioned but when we were fighting ele, we had everyone stand on top of each other so that the ele would stay at the ppl who were doing the sc. This prevented problems with the weird hate mechanics in that zone, so the hate would not pull the ele away from the people who were doing the sc. Even whms stood with the ones doing the sc for all ele except dark which does AOE petrify move, and the hybrid ele that terrors.

[Cyleena]

I can tell you without a doubt that it works. There's just something specific we're missing for the exact method to get the MB related upgrade. Some groups are in the sweet spot with how much damage they are doing and how many MBs they are doing per elemental. For example, if you're 1 shotting every elemental with a tier1 and you're not getting upgrades, try taking some gear off and allowing 1 or 2 more people MB also. The impact method seems more reliable in general, but we've also had it take around 20 elementals to get an upgrade using that too.

We managed to kill 5 or 6 Ploutons tonight and I honestly couldn't tell you what exactly got us the MB upgrade in any given run. We got it in as few as 6 fire elemental kills and as much as killing every single fire/air/earth/ice/thunder elemental and getting it on literally the last elemental we had available to kill.

Thank you for verifying it works Ejin. Also I agree about taking the gear off, we did that with our sc people and even unloaded gear swapping during that time. Congratulations on your wins.

[hyorinmaruu]

yeah cyleena that does help being a samurai and having to 6 step skillchain is hard when you have to run around everywhere

[Cyleena]

yeah cyleena that does help being a samurai and having to 6 step skillchain is hard when you have to run around everywhere

Yeah, I feel your pain when that happens. Like I said can not really do it when you fighting dark ele because petrify aoe tp move, and hybrid ele have terror aoe move but the rest you can do it np. On the dark ele I just made sure to watch cures to not pull hate, and with hybrid we just straight out killed them and didn't bother with sc on them.

[Yeager]

I can tell you without a doubt that it works. There's just something specific we're missing for the exact method to get the MB related upgrade. Some groups are in the sweet spot with how much damage they are doing and how many MBs they are doing per elemental. For example, if you're 1 shotting every elemental with a tier1 and you're not getting upgrades, try taking some gear off and allowing 1 or 2 more people MB also. The impact method seems more reliable in general, but we've also had it take around 20 elementals to get an upgrade using that too.

We managed to kill 5 or 6 Ploutons tonight and I honestly couldn't tell you what exactly got us the MB upgrade in any given run. We got it in as few as 6 fire elemental kills and as much as killing every single fire/air/earth/ice/thunder elemental and getting it on literally the last elemental we had available to kill.

At this point, and especially considering the monumental amount of trolling that has been going on in this thread as of late, Video proof or it didn't happen. We did 5 full 45 minute runs killing every possible elemental using the techniques that have been described, and not once did we get the 2nd upgrade message. So please understand me and my LS's frustration. And also understand why we want video proof as well.

[hyorinmaruu]

well i can screen shot my title if u like sir me and targ are in the same ls and were first na i believe on bahamut to clear this so just look at what he posted thats what we did

[Magitek]

We're in the same boat as you Yeager, and I highly doubt Ejiin would be one to troll.

[Targaryen]

Well i'm not trolling about how we got the hue on MB kills.

[Cyleena]

Well ... something that was in all our kills but might be different for everyone else. All those SC+MB kills were chained because of how fast we were moving through them. The death after the tenth or twelfth chained elemental is when it upgraded, we also don't bother with the hybrid elementals and just had our nukers blow em up.

I know Ejin is not trolling because it worked for our group and we posted ss of our win. I totally understand your frustration but how fast is your kill speed? We noticed chaining kills seemed to help with upgrades. This is not totally confirmed but the fact that we kept a chain going seemed to help like Saevel said in the quote above.

When the chain got broke for w/e reason it seemed like we had a lot of issues getting upgrades. Again we have not confirmed this but have noticed it.

[Lyramion]

No reason for Eijin to troll when he was the one revealing exact Perfidien conditions. We also tried various methods last night and gave up after 6 hours without a pop. Made the event slighly frustrating.

[charlo]

Looks like skillchains and Magic can pop, covering both light and dark. Could it just be covering both light and dark damage at a certain single hit thresholds (5k+ maybe), which is why MBing seems to work. Or total damage thresholds. What's the damage on the last light on the SAMs 6 step that worked? Maybe after doing multiple skillchains one reached a high enough damage or a cumulative total damage. Without killing it of course.
So covering all 8 elements with a certain damage hit on each maybe, and also coving them on Skillchain and Magic burst.
Which is why multiple skillchains work too covering the elements.

[Targaryen]

I forgot to mention that we got the hue on MB w/o killing the mob and i have a screenshot and i edited my earlier post with this info.

[Hazanko]

With all these Ploutons being popped and defeated, has anyone gotten a Tartarus Platemail to drop? I haven't seen anyone mention it so far.

[Lyramion]

Considering the fancyness of it I bet SE slapped a big fat MEGA SUPER RARE PLS PLAY TILL 2018 on it.

[Cyleena]

With all these Ploutons being popped and defeated, has anyone gotten a Tartarus Platemail to drop? I haven't seen anyone mention it so far.

We have not seen one yet. We have only seen Befouled crown, and Odium so far.