Vagary Findings

[Targaryen]

The packets are IDENTICAL. The only difference is the index they're initiating. The server does not give client any information to differentiate sound, so any difference you're hearing is not intended. It's most likely due to something like the client cutting out sound because of another sound coming in.

Never mind that 'always getting it within 1-3(sometimes 4)' is an expected outcome and you have no understanding of basic statistics.

If you come up with a plausible theory that's one thing, but you can prove 100% that any sound difference isn't intended by examining the server communications. Hence, shit ain't right dog.

I repeat, since the packets are identical any possible trick is a pattern not an observable difference.

Well "dog" my theories are the only ones out there that have anything to do with differences between the 6 triggers and we have stood ontop/near each of the triggers pointing away from the other triggers in first person mode to avoid all other sounds and our ISP's and computer's aren't crap and i say getting a NM to pop "majority" of the time in 1-3 triggers from it be luck or whatever, is alot better then poping 4-5 triggers before getting lucky and finding the bosses, Now you have expressed your opinion on the matter so if you cannot find a better theory or confirm an actual way of poping NMs then stay quite. (hint: Maybe someone could put thier file digging skills to use and look to see if we can get time extention's by meeting some requirements that may be hinted by the memories messages we get after poping triggers, so just throwing that out there.)

[dasva]

Your ISPs and computers don't have to be crap to have a noticeable difference... hell I've seen small differences when things happened on different accounts being run on the same computer or comparable computers being ran in the same building... and the differences between regions can be quite huge. And that was just for from SE to me. You have that plus dealing with your players reaction times and the VOIP delays as well. Your theory would hold a lot more weight if you were actually measuring length of the sound instead of whose quit last.


As far as the majority goes... random odds would put you at 50% chance to get within the first 1-3 so about half the groups just picking randomly are also getting a majority within 1-3... without specific rates can't really determine how statistically likely your odds have been

[The Assman]

I've been thinking acuexes are supposed to be a hint of some kind...they don't follow the same pattern as leeches/slimes (7->8 instead of 6->6->6->subspecies x6) and I feel like whenever we hit all 6 devices within a tier, acuexes consistently appear 1-2 times while leeches and slimes can range from 0 to 4.

[Systematicchaos]

Anyone know of a gimmick with Putraxia as far as damage spikes from his weaponskills, or specifically Undulating Shockwave? We just had him wipe out our frontline with a 14k Undulating Shockwave (2.4k to the PLD), then proceed to do the same to the backline (They wouldn't potentially have magic defense down on). Is it just our group missing something or not managing something correctly?

As a side note, he had his wind aura in one hand and lightning aura in another hand at the time of wiping the floor with us, a status which seems to change.

[Lolwutt]

Well "dog" my theories are the only ones out there that have anything to do with differences between the 6 triggers and we have stood ontop/near each of the triggers pointing away from the other triggers in first person mode to avoid all other sounds and our ISP's and computer's aren't crap and i say getting a NM to pop "majority" of the time in 1-3 triggers from it be luck or whatever, is alot better then poping 4-5 triggers before getting lucky and finding the bosses, Now you have expressed your opinion on the matter so if you cannot find a better theory or confirm an actual way of poping NMs then stay quite. (hint: Maybe someone could put thier file digging skills to use and look to see if we can get time extention's by meeting some requirements that may be hinted by the memories messages we get after poping triggers, so just throwing that out there.)

Why is this dude still allowed to post..?

Game tells client which model to load. Client loads model with attached sound. Game says same model for all 6 slots. There's no communication that would tell your client to play a different sound for whatever one you think is special. Any difference is entirely in your head. This isn't opinion, it's verifiable fact.

[Targaryen]

Why is this dude still allowed to post..?

Game tells client which model to load. Client loads model with attached sound. Game says same model for all 6 slots. There's no communication that would tell your client to play a different sound for whatever one you think is special. Any difference is entirely in your head. This isn't opinion, it's verifiable fact.

Why is this troll still allowed to post..? we already heard what you had to say now please leave if you have nothing further to contribute without actually testing it in-game yourself.

[BerenTebogo]

You are the literal worst. You are the macross of the ffxi section.

[FaeQueenCory]

Y'all calm yo tits.
It's blatantly obvious that he is massively ignorant for how computers work, specifically in regards to a server-client relationship.
There's no need to further this discussion because it should have gone like this:
"I think it's this reason!"
"Sweetie, the roms tells us that all the statues have the same sound."
"What does that mean?"
"Explains how packets and computing works"
The end.

This has gone on for too long and is just dumb.
Impossibility rules that idea out immediately, and it's blatantly obvious to me that repeating the explanation for how the Internet works accomplishes nothing because it's being disregarded as "anti-helpful".

So can we just be civil and ignore this train of thought now?
(Though I am deathly curious, to the point of actually posting, who is macross??)

[Targaryen]

You are the literal worst. You are the macross of the ffxi section.

I really hope that wasn't to me, When i come on here i want to see people give their theories so we can test them and narrow things down to solving the puzzle and respectfully give feedback, not argue with trolls, right now our group is trying every possible theory to pop Rancibus quickly and i am simply sharing our test results and plan to share our test results on Brash/Deathborne Gate's for platemail droprate after we kill Plouton enough times to confirm if the gate you enter to pop him in matters or not, So i can continue to share our test results or just not deal with it if i'm gonna be insulted everytime i make a post.

[BerenTebogo]

Y'all calm yo tits.
It's blatantly obvious that he is massively ignorant for how computers work, specifically in regards to a server-client relationship.
There's no need to further this discussion because it should have gone like this:
"I think it's this reason!"
"Sweetie, the roms tells us that all the statues have the same sound."
"What does that mean?"
"Explains how packets and computing works"
The end.

This has gone on for too long and is just dumb.
Impossibility rules that idea out immediately, and it's blatantly obvious to me that repeating the explanation for how the Internet works accomplishes nothing because it's being disregarded as "anti-helpful".

So can we just be civil and ignore this train of thought now?
(Though I am deathly curious, to the point of actually posting, who is macross??)

AIDS in word form from the Bentertainment Geekly section.

[Targaryen]

Y'all calm yo tits.
It's blatantly obvious that he is massively ignorant for how computers work, specifically in regards to a server-client relationship.

No i'm not ignorant on the matter but i do agree that tits should be calmed.

[dasva]

Anyone know of a gimmick with Putraxia as far as damage spikes from his weaponskills, or specifically Undulating Shockwave? We just had him wipe out our frontline with a 14k Undulating Shockwave (2.4k to the PLD), then proceed to do the same to the backline (They wouldn't potentially have magic defense down on). Is it just our group missing something or not managing something correctly?

As a side note, he had his wind aura in one hand and lightning aura in another hand at the time of wiping the floor with us, a status which seems to change.

Hmmm haven't seen it go that high myself. Even if it was from mdb down the dmg would be quite large without it given mdb appears to have a min cap of 50. iirc those auras do seem to have some effect on that mob types AI and possibly dmg so maybe that was it?

[dasva]

Why is this troll still allowed to post..? we already heard what you had to say now please leave if you have nothing further to contribute without actually testing it in-game yourself.

http://i.lvme.me/pzv5j7l.jpg

[Celebrindor]

Servers may die, but Sath never will go gently into that good night.

[Edelweiss]

No i'm not ignorant on the matter but i do agree that tits should be calmed.

You should probably learn that a comma is not a substitute for a period, since you're apparently not learning anything else from people correcting your tinfoil theorycrafting.

[Targaryen]

You should probably learn that a comma is not a substitute for a period, since you're apparently not learning anything else from people correcting your tinfoil theorycrafting.

You apparently are not learning that your tinfoil theorytrolling is not helping this thread. @dasva yes none of this works with trolls filling the pages so please don't contribute to it anymore.

[EjinCaitsith]

We've cracked the Tartarus Code!
http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...6e57dec89e.jpg

It has to do with Tom Hanks and 'The Da Vinci Code,' but I dare not say anymore for fear of my life.

[Ramzii]

you had to listen for plouton's longest grunt and then kill it to get the drop right?

[Hyriu]

You are the macross of the ffxi section.

harsh

[Targaryen]

Our group is done trying to get Platemail to drop in Brash Gate and it hasn't dropped in that zone so we are now trying Deathborne Gate, Our last remaining theory on the triggers that we didn't get to fully test are the messages you get from a trigger after poping a wave and since our focus was poping Plouton we didn't test this much so if anyone wants to test and confirm if getting a certain message means the NM trigger is next to the trigger you hit or further from the trigger you hit then this would be helpful.