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    Well I can tell you that machinist won't be getting tizona anyway, raubahn has that already. Won't be seeing annihilator or death penalty either so don't get your hopes up (merlwyb has those)

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    Coffinmaker. Always loved that name.

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    Speaking of weapons, what ever happened to us getting access to Bradamante -_-

    While I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Gilgamesh I think 3 separate encounters was long enough before they let us have it considering people have wanted it since 1.0.

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    It's fine, i mean save the queen was a sword in most games but also a staff in KH and a whip in ff8.

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    I would fucking love me a scythe. When I saw DRK announced for XI I was all about it just because of the scythe and dark magic, but, then, yeah.

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    But then, yea, what? <_>

    Until Resolution scythe was pretty much always DRK's better weapon.

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    In the early days greatsword was better than scythe. Capping acc and attack wasn't exactly commonplace until mid ToAU I guess.

    Scythe was actually very rarely DRK's best weapon. Especially if you take Apoc out of the picture and people probably forget just how rare relics were prior to like 2010 I guess. I remember even when i got my Apoc there was only maybe 0-3 Apocs per server.

    Off the top of my head

    Pre-zilart - DRK was garbage but Axe was best weapon I guess
    Zilart - Greatsword for Sky/HNM. Axes for exp I guess.
    CoP - Greatsword for Sea/HNM. Axes for exp still probably
    ToAU - After 2 hand buff they were equalish unless you had Apoc
    WotG - Equalish unless you had Apoc
    Abyssea - Both awful. Debatably Axe was their best weapon but Calad > Apoc
    Post Abyssea - Same as ToAU/WotG until Reso happened

    Of course the most accurate answer between ToAU and Reso was 'Don't take a DRK unless they have a Relic'. Same was true pre-ToAU but people didn't really know any better then. I say this as a career DRK who still played it when we were shit tier.

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    I think we used Scythe sometimes to make Darkness/Ice SC's on Aspid... but yeah if you didn't have Apoc then it was just don't bring the DRK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Off the top of my head

    Pre-zilart - DRK was garbage but Axe was best weapon I guess
    Zilart - Greatsword for Sky/HNM. Axes for exp I guess.
    CoP - Greatsword for Sea/HNM. Axes for exp still probably
    ToAU - After 2 hand buff they were equalish unless you had Apoc
    WotG - Equalish unless you had Apoc
    Abyssea - Both awful. Debatably Axe was their best weapon but Calad > Apoc
    Post Abyssea - Same as ToAU/WotG until Reso happened
    What if the DRK had a Ridill? Was it best DPS prior to ToAU buff or ...

    edit: nevermind, saw you written "axes"; I was reading it as "Great Axe" lol

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    Scythe could still go to something like BST if they bring it in? Or whips I guess?

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    I associate whips to vampire hunters nowadays lol

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    We already have scythes in the game, and in their proper place - with botanists. If you REALLY want more scythe action, we can perhaps make a "peasant badass" class, dressed up in rags and a unassuming jin-gasa, only to have him turn into a vicious close-ranged fighter with hand scythes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    What if the DRK had a Ridill? Was it best DPS prior to ToAU buff or ...

    edit: nevermind, saw you written "axes"; I was reading it as "Great Axe" lol
    For DRK 1h axes and swords were pretty interchangeable, same rank with both.

    You'd just use whatever weapons gave the best bonuses with the higher base damage weapon in the MH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Well I can tell you that machinist won't be getting tizona anyway, raubahn has that already. Won't be seeing annihilator or death penalty either so don't get your hopes up (merlwyb has those)
    i'm happy that Death penalty is already a gun so there is hope....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw View Post
    i'm happy that Death penalty is already a gun so there is hope....
    Not unless Ms Maelstrom commander dies during the Musketeer storyline in 2019 and we inherit it.

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    Hey, maybe there'll be some storyline where they chop one of her arms off. She can't use both guns then.

    In other news, someone said Raub's sword was Tizona, but he has two. Does the other one have a name? Is Tizona the name of the set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    In the early days greatsword was better than scythe. Capping acc and attack wasn't exactly commonplace until mid ToAU I guess.

    Scythe was actually very rarely DRK's best weapon. Especially if you take Apoc out of the picture and people probably forget just how rare relics were prior to like 2010 I guess. I remember even when i got my Apoc there was only maybe 0-3 Apocs per server.

    Off the top of my head

    Pre-zilart - DRK was garbage but Axe was best weapon I guess
    Zilart - Greatsword for Sky/HNM. Axes for exp I guess.
    CoP - Greatsword for Sea/HNM. Axes for exp still probably
    ToAU - After 2 hand buff they were equalish unless you had Apoc
    WotG - Equalish unless you had Apoc
    (all of the following applies to 75 era)

    Axe was not best DRK weapon pre-WS TP nerf (Guillotine, especially /SAM).
    GSD was good if you were doing SC+MB (SATA+Spinslash).
    I have no idea why anyone would use a GSD if you weren't doing SC+MB, because otherwise the WSes were absolute garbage.

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    In ye olden days before BRDs and good gear I could see Gsword being the better weapon because Spinning being single hit with an ATK bonus (a la SAM WS) could very well do better than Guillotine on average.

    Guillotine not having any special damage properties of its own meant unless SE was up or you got a DA it was kind of mediocre (couldn't crit, TP only enhances the silence effect, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Hey, maybe there'll be some storyline where they chop one of her arms off. She can't use both guns then.

    In other news, someone said Raub's sword was Tizona, but he has two. Does the other one have a name? Is Tizona the name of the set?
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...mmortalflames/

    Doesn't list the other sword's name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...mmortalflames/

    Doesn't list the other sword's name.
    It's like they knew he wouldn't need a second sword... #ha

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