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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeldue View Post
    Id like to know other strategies than bsts heh but still, please elaborate what pets did you use, did you use 2h and what did you use for TP moves for pets?
    Formula for escha is: Bird to tank / Tiger to DD / Grasshopper to cleave. Didn't 2hr except on rabbit. TP moves are plumage if you have a MACC set, swooping frenzy if you don't.

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    Rank 15
    A: STR10 ATT20 Pet: ATT20
    B: ACC15 ATT15 STP5
    C: Pet: (ATT25 MAB15 enmity+7)
    D: CHR15 Pet: (Haste3 DA3)

    Edited for rank 15 stats.

    Gonna use it for scenario where ACC is capped I guess. Whatever.

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    Ionos: Nibiru Sickle

    we did 2x Bst 2x Geo Langour and Malaise

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    Nibiru cudgel augments rank 15:
    A: MND+10 M.Acc +15 Cure potency +15
    B: MP+50 INT+10 MAB+15
    C: Acc+15 M.Acc+15 Fast Cast+3
    D: MP+50 Pet: DT-3% Pet: Regen +2

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    Anyone happen to know what the augment paths are for Nibiru staff?

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    Have some axes. I like these models.

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    Haste takes Utsu: Ni timer from ~28 to ~24 seconds. Lasts 3 minutes. Low proc rate, around 5% or less I'd say.

    Seems to be add effect: Haste 1 spell more or less.

    Edit: I can't explain this damage spike except maybe hidden effect? Was single-wielding.


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    I'm not sure how, but our group procced white on Tangata Manu, the harpy. When it was procced, it was just hit with a Rudra's Storm and a Blizzard 2 at the same time, so we're not sure what caused it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Edit: I can't explain this damage spike except maybe hidden effect? Was single-wielding.
    what axe was it the R/ex one or blurred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tile View Post
    what axe was it the R/ex one or blurred?
    Blurred NQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    all power to you but i doubt 2-3 bst + support jobs isnt gonna do it :/
    Bit late of a reply but just did PUP BST BST GEO RDM COR for Ulmhallu T3. Could've done it without the PUP for sure and the COR didn't have beast roll.

    So I guess it is gonna do it!

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    I've been doing these off and on, not really regularly to provide concrete data, but is it me or are weaponskill animations kind of weird with these NMs? I've been a simultaneous Light and Darkness animation go off, which as far as I knew wasn't really possible. Don't think it was lag, since someone else in my party mentioned it, too. I want to say it was on the raffle but I'm not 100% sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    the COR didn't have beast roll.
    what kind of lazy cor doesn't have every roll, first thing I after update was buy Geo and Rune.

    Also it would be neat if the Blurred have a hidden effect of x2 dmg, would make the HQ even better, keep an eye out for it, I havent noticed anything special with my blurred shield other than it have more shield bash dmg than ochain by 100.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suteru View Post
    I've been doing these off and on, not really regularly to provide concrete data, but is it me or are weaponskill animations kind of weird with these NMs? I've been a simultaneous Light and Darkness animation go off, which as far as I knew wasn't really possible. Don't think it was lag, since someone else in my party mentioned it, too. I want to say it was on the raffle but I'm not 100% sure.
    Are you sure you didnt get a White proc off a Dark SC? it would put the white !! inside the darkness effect i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tile View Post
    what kind of lazy cor doesn't have every roll, first thing I after update was buy Geo and Rune.

    Also it would be neat if the Blurred have a hidden effect of x2 dmg, would make the HQ even better, keep an eye out for it, I havent noticed anything special with my blurred shield other than it have more shield bash dmg than ochain by 100.



    Are you sure you didnt get a White proc off a Dark SC? it would put the white !! inside the darkness effect i think.
    It was some random SAM we let join for a T1 clear who stuck around and changed to COR since he spent all of the T1/T2 we did dead. Don't think I've ever even seen him before today, lol. It gave us a chuckle to say the least.

    A hidden effect on blurred would make sense since like for axe the base damage is lower than Hunaphu and haste proc is low so what else would be the point...

    I'll try to test a bit tomorrow night but unfortunately I almost never melee, would've done another weapon besides axe but rarely meleeing > never having reason to play the other jobs.

    Hidden 2x damage would be very nice, provided it's at least a few %.

    Edit 2: Did about 15 minutes worth of testing.
    -Haste effect does not stack with haste 1 spell from trust, nor will it overwrite.
    -Haste effect will not overwrite itself for extended duration

    Killed about 10 monsters single-wielding the axe and could not reproduce anything like that picture I posted earlier. No damage variation that couldn't be explained by the normal damage formula ranges. I then killed 5 monsters with Nibiru axe (5 base damage less) to make sure that the damage ranges I was seeing were indeed correct and this happened:



    So it's a vorseal thing or it's a killer effect thing. Though I had a large number of intimidates (obviously, am a BST) while wearing the Blurred axe for the first 10 monsters and saw no spikes that could've been due to the same effect.

    Ultimately I'm very, very confused and fairly underwhelmed. Will continue to keep my eye out but the haste not overwriting itself has pretty much eliminated the usefulness of the axe for me as it is now.

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    I cannot find where the Rare Monster+ seal is from.

    I've killed every T1/T2/T3 except rabbit / blazewing. Friend has killed exact same enemies. We even have the same vorseals maxed. He has rare monster+ 1/1 and I don't have the option to buy it. What the shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    So it's a vorseal thing or it's a killer effect thing. Though I had a large number of intimidates (obviously, am a BST) while wearing the Blurred axe for the first 10 monsters and saw no spikes that could've been due to the same effect.

    Ultimately I'm very, very confused and fairly underwhelmed. Will continue to keep my eye out but the haste not overwriting itself has pretty much eliminated the usefulness of the axe for me as it is now.
    Killer effects would only increase dmg while in af3 body... and then would be 100% of the time and nowhere near double dmg. Speaking of af3 and the reforges of it were you using any? Set bonus is double dmg if your pet is at 100% so seems within the ranges

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Killer effects would only increase dmg while in af3 body... and then would be 100% of the time and nowhere near double dmg. Speaking of af3 and the reforges of it were you using any? Set bonus is double dmg if your pet is at 100% so seems within the ranges
    Sigh...

    Thank you Dasva. Never crossed my mind...3/5 119 to melee.

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    In the category of weird vorseal discrepancies, one other person and I have both done exactly the same stuff in escha (not much, just a bunch of silt farming and getting eaten by Beist a few times), and I've got the first tier of the str/dex/int/etc vorseals available, and they don't. When we first noticed this neither of us had even killed any NMs at all in there. There may be some external-to-escha stuff being checked to unlock certain things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aumaan_Kujata View Post
    In the category of weird vorseal discrepancies, one other person and I have both done exactly the same stuff in escha (not much, just a bunch of silt farming and getting eaten by Beist a few times), and I've got the first tier of the str/dex/int/etc vorseals available, and they don't. When we first noticed this neither of us had even killed any NMs at all in there. There may be some external-to-escha stuff being checked to unlock certain things?
    OP seems to suggest that the vorseals available is randomized per person and rerolled per JP day.

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    Onca suit is amazing for mage melee. 1015 acc/1021 att unbuffed (except ionis) is pretty ridiculous for a geo high acc set, even if you have a decent telchine set. Not really sacrificing much in terms of DA or STP either, especially at those acc levels. Can't wait to try it out in lolDelveI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I cannot find where the Rare Monster+ seal is from.

    I've killed every T1/T2/T3 except rabbit / blazewing. Friend has killed exact same enemies. We even have the same vorseals maxed. He has rare monster+ 1/1 and I don't have the option to buy it. What the shit?
    Have you killed one of every normal Eschan mob in the zone? I've got 2/2 Rare Monster+ without killing a single non-Unity NM in there, and SE's patch notes mention killing non-NMs affecting vorseals you can buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    Have you killed one of every normal Eschan mob in the zone? I've got 2/2 Rare Monster+ without killing a single non-Unity NM in there, and SE's patch notes mention killing non-NMs affecting vorseals you can buy.
    I can't confidently say that I have, but I'm pretty sure I've done at least 1 cleave in every area. I'll check it out tonight.

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