Time for a serious discussion about transracial issues?

[Marootsoobutsu]

> Files a lawsuit basically alleging that her work in african studies wasn't being taken seriously because she was white
> Gets laughed at
> Pretends to be black
> Successful head of the NAACP chapter

It's /almost/ like race might matter in how others treat someone.

Like race, not ethnicity, might make a difference in how others perceive you.

Almost.

[Spicyryan]

You're aware that a great many people think that transgenders are pretending, right?

Meh, IMO people can be born mentally the wrong gender.
Being born Black and identifying Asian is just dumb IMO. Half of that is racist anyway since you cant act Asian which is the logical next step.
You can act according to an Asian culture but that's identifying to a culture and not a racial identity.
Can't act a race.

[kuronosan]

It's /almost/ like race might matter in how others treat someone.

Like race, not ethnicity, might make a difference in how others perceive you.

Almost.

And you once again totally disconnect anything resembling your point from reality.

[Spicyryan]

We are just all so rude to each other

[kuronosan]

Sorry, but when people keep going back to "BUT MUH FEELINGZ IZ BLACK" when the issue at hand is not how she identifies, I have little time for kid gloves.

[Spicyryan]

Sorry, but when people keep going back to "BUT MUH FEELINGZ IZ BLACK" when the issue at hand is not how she identifies, I have little time for kid gloves.

I did just mention the next logical step after identifying as a race (that's what this thread is, right?) is to behave in a manner you feel that race might, yes? Hence feelings, hence the two are attached.

[Dimmauk]

Meh, IMO people can be born mentally the wrong gender.
Being born Black and identifying Asian is just dumb IMO. Half of that is racist anyway since you cant act Asian which is the logical next step.
You can act according to an Asian culture but that's identifying to a culture and not a racial identity.
Can't act a race.

http://static.tumblr.com/pf3qzyt/l77ldeaqx/leroy.jpg

#fakeblacklivesmatter

[archibaldcrane]

Larry Wilmore just dubbed her the "incognegro" which, well duh

[Dimmauk]

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFile...5/84623161.jpg

[Psion]

Eh, I can maybe sort of understand how she might feel. Ever since i was little, i've felt "off" in my own body, as if what i saw in the mirror didn't match what was in my head. For instance, the real me has black wavy hair and brown eyes, yet the inner me has green eyes and straight blonde hair. facial features are different as well as height, body build, etc. it wasn't very clear as a kid, but as i saw people i would sometimes see something that would "click" and suddenly that mental image would sharpen into focus a bit more.

Race never really factored into it though. my real self is hispanic/caucasian but ill be damned if i know exactly what the inner me's race is, nor do i care. lol

[Galkaeater]

what

[notorious bum]

Oh....

[BerenTebogo]

At least he's not a wolf.

[Psion]

/shrug

I didn't expect much else of a reaction. that's how it's been as long as i can remember though. something about my body felt like it was wrong, like looking in a mirror and feeling like i'm looking at someone else.

[Thunder]

I know this sort of self-evaluation is hard to do accurately... but do you have any issues with self-esteem? Sensitive to criticism? Are you often nervous speaking to the opposite sex? Do you -wish- you were someone else?

[thetruepandagod]

Are you often nervous speaking to the opposite sex?

Well he's gay so I doubt it's a problem. I'd be more interested in if he actively seeks out blond haired green eyed gentlemen.

[Psion]

I do like blondes yes, but i also like a lot of guys. :D

as far as self-esteem, that one's hard to say. sure i have esteem issues with certain things... about my weight and appearance, about my lack of any real skills for landing a decent job, that sort of thing. but i've had a ton of issues since i was a kid, with delayed speech, pigeon toes, overbite, nearsightedness, you name it. it's taken me a lot longer than a regular person to get to where i am now, but all i have to do is look back to those days and realize how far i've grown. As far as wishing i were someone else, i wish i was ::myself::, the inner image i can see but isn't reflected to others. i have no interest in becoming some popular celebrity or someone else.

And as far as criticism goes, i take it just fine... so long as it is actual discussion. when someone tells me they know something better than me and don't give a word of explanation why their way is better, you can be sure i won't take that well at all. if they offer a suggestion for a better way to do something though, and explain their reasons... well, i will certainly listen because i enjoy improving myself. as for whether your way of doing things is better, it may or may not be, but if i see anything useful in a different method ill either adopt it wholesale or adapt my own way of doing things to take in what new things i've been taught.

[Thunder]

Hmm. I can't help but think everyone with similar, "I feel as though inside I am black, white, blond, a wolf" have self esteem issues. Maybe I'm just drawing that conclusion because the only times I've heard that stuff it came from people who are obviously on the bottom of the social hierarchy (the wolf guy picture comes to mine [howls internally]).

I wonder if you're not just focused on the wrong things in life and are imagining, or living vicariously through, "another" you who is all the things you want to be but aren't. Like a coping mechanism

Just a thought though, could be wrong

[Psion]

I think you might be a bit confused on this. it's not that i feel like pretending to be someone else and trying to live through them. i ::am:: that person and i feel like i'm trapped in a body that doesn't respond how my mind is dictating. for instance, when i talk inside my head, it comes out perfectly fine, but when i try to actually speak it to someone else, it comes out a jumbled mess half the time. same with my physical abilities, although it's improved somewhat after taking tai chi classes... at least now i can balance on one leg easily. before that i was always tripping over myself, now i rarely ever trip unless its the typical unseen root or twig on the path... and i almost never fall down even when i do trip now.

as far as whether i'm on the bottom of the social hierarchy, i'm pretty much a lonester, and as a kid i was certainly the bottom of the barrel (wearing headgear in fourth grade does wonders for your appearance... in a bad way.), but pretty much around high school it started to change, pretty much around the time i finally stopped lying to myself and accepting i was gay and nothing was going to change, that nothing needed to change. pretty much i improved a lot from there, and while i'm not one for conversation, people tend to come talk to me and treat me as if i'm a leader. I'm not entirely sure why, since most of the time i just listen to them talk and barely say anything. ^^;

[Galkaeater]

you know who else was dark haired on the outside, blonde on the inside?

Hitler