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    I need some advice..

    Before it is stated, I just wanted to say I've been to a shrink/therapist and I don't know what to do.

    Here lately my suicidal tendencies/extremely bad thoughts (no, not along the lines of murder) have been getting to me and I don't want to end up like another random obituary in the paper. I need to go to a doctor and request a medicine that can actually work to quell these thoughts I've been having.

    I like to think I'm a rational personal, with rational thoughts. But I just want to know if anyone else has been in this position and know of medicines that can help.. control, I guess, these shitty feelings I've been going through. I go every day in a dead end job, with dead end ambitions it feels and I just have trouble coping with it. I have yet to be on meds before, even though I probably should have and am honestly wondering if there is anyone else out there that has been in my situation and know of advice to give me?

    Feel free to disregard this post if you want.

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    well, depression from what i've read tends to fall into two categories, clinical and environmental. (and sometimes you have both!) if it's clinical you need medicine to deal with it, if its the environment you should probably talk to your situation with a professional who can help you deal with it, and if its both well, you need both routes.

    That said, sometimes nothing seems to work... But i've head good things about studies done on shrooms combined with a proper setting putting the "reset button" on the brain, getting you out of a negative loop. that said, it's probably best not to self-medicate, especially alone and in an environment where you don't feel relaxed and secure. ;x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebzile View Post
    Before it is stated, I just wanted to say I've been to a shrink/therapist and I don't know what to do.

    Here lately my suicidal tendencies/extremely bad thoughts (no, not along the lines of murder) have been getting to me and I don't want to end up like another random obituary in the paper. I need to go to a doctor and request a medicine that can actually work to quell these thoughts I've been having.

    I like to think I'm a rational personal, with rational thoughts. But I just want to know if anyone else has been in this position and know of medicines that can help.. control, I guess, these shitty feelings I've been going through. I go every day in a dead end job, with dead end ambitions it feels and I just have trouble coping with it. I have yet to be on meds before, even though I probably should have and am honestly wondering if there is anyone else out there that has been in my situation and know of advice to give me?

    Feel free to disregard this post if you want.
    I knew I could never kill myself as long as my parents are alive, so i decided to quit bein a biggity ass bitch about suicidal thoughts at least until that point. Worked me so far. You may not see similar results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    it's probably best not to self-medicate
    Tell that to my totally productive and healthy coke habit ya twink.

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    Just don't go way overboard on shrooms. Ego-death is one eye of the Abyss that can leave some long term marks.

    But yeah, talking with a professional is the best step for figuring out what's the cause and how to treat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    well, depression from what i've read tends to fall into two categories, clinical and environmental. (and sometimes you have both!) if it's clinical you need medicine to deal with it, if its the environment you should probably talk to your situation with a professional who can help you deal with it, and if its both well, you need both routes.

    That said, sometimes nothing seems to work... But i've head good things about studies done on shrooms combined with a proper setting putting the "reset button" on the brain, getting you out of a negative loop. that said, it's probably best not to self-medicate, especially alone and in an environment where you don't feel relaxed and secure. ;x
    I have heard about shrooms and have considered it. Living in a college town it's easy as fuck to get shit like that here, only probablem is random drug screenings at my shitty grocery job I'm stuck at currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    I knew I could never kill myself as long as my parents are alive, so i decided to quit bein a biggity ass bitch about suicidal thoughts at least until that point. Worked me so far. You may not see similar results..
    Sadly that is my current reasoning, I've pretty much confirmed with myself if my Mother dies (only living relative that matters) which may not be much longer as she was recentlty diagnosed with a kidney disease of some sort, I'm going to off myself. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebzile View Post
    I have heard about shrooms and have considered it. Living in a college town it's easy as fuck to get shit like that here, only probablem is random drug screenings at my shitty grocery job I'm stuck at currently.
    Better off than me there. i've never done drugs so i wouldn't even know where to start to get some shrooms, especially since california doesn't allow spore shipments here. <_<; thats pretty much the only drug i've ever been tempted to try due to it's lack of negatives and potential benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    Better off than me there. i've never done drugs so i wouldn't even know where to start to get some shrooms, especially since california doesn't allow spore shipments here. <_<; thats pretty much the only drug i've ever been tempted to try due to it's lack of negatives and potential benefits.
    I live in california and have 19 yr olds that work at the gym offering to sell me shrooms and lsd, how the fuck can u not find any?? I have never done hallucinogens however unless you count weed lel. If it aint an upper then keep ur trashcan drugs away from me filthy hippy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psion View Post
    Better off than me there. i've never done drugs so i wouldn't even know where to start to get some shrooms, especially since california doesn't allow spore shipments here. <_<; thats pretty much the only drug i've ever been tempted to try due to it's lack of negatives and potential benefits.
    Unfortunately, I've been addicted to pain pills in the past because I have a bum knee which hurts everyday, and I've smoked weed. Always wanted to try shrooms and acid and when I heard about their calming effects (shrooms) I've been leaning to them. Lol

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    I live in the orange county area, maybe that's why i don't see any drug offers. <_<; everyone here is filthy rich but me, not much in the way of shady types i've seen.

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    I live in Santa Barbara, hell oprah lives 15min from me. NO EXCUSES DRUG LIKE A CHAMP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebzile View Post

    Sadly that is my current reasoning, I've pretty much confirmed with myself if my Mother dies (only living relative that matters) which may not be much longer as she was recentlty diagnosed with a kidney disease of some sort, I'm going to off myself. Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by thetruepandagod View Post
    I knew I could never kill myself as long as my parents are alive, so i decided to quit bein a biggity ass bitch about suicidal thoughts at least until that point. Worked me so far. You may not see similar results.


    I have a more indifferent mindset when it comes to death. The way I look at it, I'm going to die no matter what at some point. Whether I'm 27 or 107 makes absolutely no difference to me. That said, I don't really get suicidal thoughts, but I don't have a strong will to live either. I'll do stupid shit and someone will be like "don't do that. That's dangerous" So while I wouldn't go shoot myself in the head, I'm more than willing to do something like drinking and then hopping on my bicycle. If I get hit? oh the fuck well. I've been hit 6 times; and if I did die, I'd be too dead to care about it.

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    Try some hobbies and hookers.

    Or go cougar hunting; you're already in the grocery store.

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    Seek help. Don't think that going to a single shrink/therapist is enough, go to many, find one you like and have an easy time talking to, one that you feel comfortable with. You're the only one who can help you get started, and as soon as you come to the conclusion that it's truly time to get better, it all starts with you, don't be lazy. I took me seeing over 10 different people over the span of nearly a year before I finally found someone who was easy to talk to, an elderly lady(prolly late 50's early 60's) who was cool as shit, down to earth and reminded me of a guidance counselor from High school that I knew.

    Everyone's different, so everyone's "fix" will be different too. What works for one may not work for you and so on, but again it all starts with you, you're the one who has to decide it's time, and then start to put in the effort to get better. It usually doesn't just come to you, you have to work for it, and sometimes you have to work hard, and do a lot of different things, but in the end if you truly want to get better, it's attainable if you're willing to put the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebzile View Post
    Before it is stated, I just wanted to say I've been to a shrink/therapist and I don't know what to do.
    Why don't you know what to do?

    Here lately my suicidal tendencies/extremely bad thoughts (no, not along the lines of murder) have been getting to me and I don't want to end up like another random obituary in the paper. I need to go to a doctor and request a medicine that can actually work to quell these thoughts I've been having.
    Well, I think that depends. How often do they occur? What thoughts have you been having? I mean, the type of medicine you need (anti-psychotic, anti-depressant, anti-anxiety) largely depends on your symptoms.

    I like to think I'm a rational personal, with rational thoughts. But I just want to know if anyone else has been in this position and know of medicines that can help.. control, I guess, these shitty feelings I've been going through. I go every day in a dead end job, with dead end ambitions it feels and I just have trouble coping with it.
    I'd probably suggest finding something new to do with your life, like a hobby or something that doesn't make you feel like you're stuck in a routine. 10 years ago I was in your position and now I'm not. I'm in a better place. Shit could change at any time, but what's important is that you seek help or change direction.

    I have yet to be on meds before, even though I probably should have and am honestly wondering if there is anyone else out there that has been in my situation and know of advice to give me?
    Are you hearing voices? Feeling as though you're compelled to do wrong? Feeling like there are multiple people in your head? Consider anti-psychotics.
    Are you on emotional highs and lows? Feeling like you're totally happy for long periods of time, followed by totally miserable? Consider anti-anxiety/convulsive.
    Are you just sad all the time? Consider anti-depressants.
    Are you jittery, paranoid, lose sleep, or "always on"? Consider anti-anxiety meds.
    Are you ... you get the point.

    My recommendation for you would be to seek an actual shrink (psychiatrist who actually cares) who can properly prescribe and gauge your response to the meds. Therapy is really only if medication doesn't work, needs a push, or isn't necessary in the first place.

    The other, less obvious option is to talk to someone about your issues.

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    PM me OP. i've been through it and gotten through it. I'll help you talk it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragon of Odin View Post
    Seek help. Don't think that going to a single shrink/therapist is enough, go to many, find one you like and have an easy time talking to, one that you feel comfortable with. You're the only one who can help you get started, and as soon as you come to the conclusion that it's truly time to get better, it all starts with you, don't be lazy. I took me seeing over 10 different people over the span of nearly a year
    Took me longer than that to find a decent physical therapist, jesus.

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    Was that just waiting via referrals or actively seeking out a good one? I put the time in, I researched, I booked most of my appointments. While I was waiting on referrals from my family Dr. I was out looking up other people and actively trying to get help, visiting one place to another any time I could get an appointment.

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    Start looking for a different job, change your routine.

    Start going to places you normally wouldn't go to. Find a different bar to frequent. Start exercising even if it begins with walking down the street and back. Break the mold.

    I started learning how to cook and speak Spanish ( still suck, but getting better) I had to force myself for a few months but now it's part of my new routine. My friends come over more often for lunch and or dinner and they sometimes bring their other friends to hang out. Compels me to learn that much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragon of Odin View Post
    Was that just waiting via referrals or actively seeking out a good one? I put the time in, I researched, I booked most of my appointments. While I was waiting on referrals from my family Dr. I was out looking up other people and actively trying to get help, visiting one place to another any time I could get an appointment.
    Actively seeking them out and getting references etc. Some were borderline inept, others helpful, but one was amazing and he moved to washington 2 weeks after I found him.

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