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  1. #181
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    So all these new DoH skills make leveling the other DoH for post 60 cross skills unnecessary?

    Thank you SE, 10 less jobs to grind

  2. #182
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    Just gotta see what the cast times are going to be when WM is on.

  3. #183
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    WHere would Warden's Paean be useful?

    Creates a barrier on a target party member or pet nullifying the next detrimental effect suffered. Can be used with other songs.
    Duration: 30s

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    Tom Wilson will never be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    Just gotta see what the cast times are going to be when WM is on.
    I would assume the same as the GCD, 2.5s, less with more skill speed

  5. #185
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    Before anyone gets too excited about Sidewinder Barrage, note that Sidewinder is considered an Ability for the sake of game mechanics and Barrage specifically says Weaponskills. Do not be surprised if Sidewinder/Bloodletter/Mercy's End do not get the effect.

  6. #186
    Tom Wilson will never be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classikmage View Post
    WHere would Warden's Paean be useful?

    Creates a barrier on a target party member or pet nullifying the next detrimental effect suffered. Can be used with other songs.
    Duration: 30s
    depends on what exactly it would nullify, protect from Stone Curse? or Doom? nullifies Ravenbeak debuff?

  7. #187
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    Hate to poop on the BRD party but Sidewinder isn't a weaponskill so I don't suppose it actually works with Barrage, Its labelled as an ability.

  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classikmage View Post
    WHere would Warden's Paean be useful?

    Creates a barrier on a target party member or pet nullifying the next detrimental effect suffered. Can be used with other songs.
    Duration: 30s
    If you know a boss has a specific move it uses that gives a bad debuff (ex: Twintania Death Sentence) you could pop it before hand to prevent it.

  9. #189
    Tom Wilson will never be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voyage1970 View Post
    Before anyone gets too excited about Sidewinder Barrage, note that Sidewinder is considered an Ability for the sake of game mechanics and Barrage specifically says Weaponskills. Do not be surprised if Sidewinder/Bloodletter/Mercy's End do not get the effect.
    yea, safe to assume using it with Empyreal Arrow is the best use for it, 240 pot.

  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    Hate to poop on the BRD party but Sidewinder isn't a weaponskill so I don't suppose it actually works with Barrage, Its labelled as an ability.
    Damn. Missed that piece of info. :/

  11. #191
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    seems like it might be a good trade-off to use wanderer's with songs (still a 5% bonus damage). Minus AA of course but with the new ws's to be used during it, it may make up for that. Unless the DET nerf is severe and AA is useless sadly I don't think we'll see much of any of the new stuff from bard since we don't have to sing that often. Although if it works out this way it will make for a more rounded bard experience.

    I would have rathered to be able to use the new songs and weaponskills more often but I don't think the AA penalty will be worth it. Unless theres some awesome combo i'm missing with barrage change and DET nerf is incredibly severe... maybe barage combo with sidewinder with both dots on? i dunno. Feels like I'm missing something here, I would wanna use the new abilities often, because cool, but it doesn't look like I will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    Hate to poop on the BRD party but Sidewinder isn't a weaponskill so I don't suppose it actually works with Barrage, Its labelled as an ability.

  12. #192
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    Also White Mage's new trait to replace Proshell is Enhanced Medica.

    20% for Medica to cost half MP.

  13. #193
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    One main use I can see for the new Rain of Death is Healer DPS. They mentioned that Alex Savage will actually take into account healer dps this time so it'll make it easier for healers to hit the acc cap.

    Also, not at home so can't check but has anyone found what the changes to SMN's abilities are?

  14. #194
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    Sorted all the music track ID's with their reference names. Also uploaded a version of the tracks with everything named but can't post it here due to url restriction.

    ~1b865d34 - bgm_ex1_battle_abaracia_01
    ~2a5a728e - bgm_ex1_rest_sharean_night
    ~2b8cf4e6 - bgm_ex1_boss02
    ~3a51bcca - bgm_ex1_event_dragonwar
    ~3bf47cc3 - bgm_ex1_endcredit01
    ~3e783355 - bgm_ex1_event_dungeon_dravaniah_01
    ~4c303bff - bgm_ex1_field_dravaniah02
    ~4e376f05 - bgm_ex1_field_dravaniac02
    ~5e101ff1 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_kyoko_0
    ~6e92c659 - bgm_ex1_field_safe1
    ~8ad2a400 - bgm_ex1_event_strategy
    ~9c30cc40 - bgm_ex1_rest_matoya
    ~9fcc53ce - bgm_ex1_battle_dravaniac_01
    ~16bb13b3 - bgm_ex1_ban_bismark_01
    ~19b06521 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_kyoko_3
    ~24d04c91 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_kyoko_2
    ~44c7813c - bgm_ex1_ban_ravana_02
    ~46ec4162 - bgm_ex1_battle_dravaniah_01
    ~89eafbc1 - bgm_ex1_battle_dravanial_01
    ~358b0f22 - bgm_ex1_battle_ishsebu_01
    ~367fbec - bgm_ex1_ravana_01
    ~511b6963 - bgm_ex1_ban_bismark_02
    ~528cb921 - bgm_ex1_event_soten
    ~851f365c - bgm_ex1_field_dravanial03
    ~1462bcf7 - bgm_ex1_field_magicc02
    ~1809f6eb - bgm_ex1_field_abaracia02
    ~2569df5b - bgm_ex1_field_abaracia03
    ~2932bc89 - bgm_ex1_field_safe2
    ~4541efc0 - bgm_ex1_system_title
    ~5147de8f - bgm_ex1_dungeon_ishsebu_01
    ~12392bce - bgm_ex1_battle_magicc_01
    ~63122f03 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_dravaniac_01
    ~72389a35 - bgm_ex1_event_start
    ~81269e32 - bgm_ex1_event_moogle
    ~93342c8f - bgm_ex1_town_ish01_night
    ~735746b5 - bgm_ex1_field_dravaniac03
    ~7150124f - bgm_ex1_field_dravaniah03
    ~a3ce5533 - bgm_ex1_fate01
    ~a437ce90 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_abaracia_01
    ~ad64a8e - bgm_ex1_town_ish02_night
    ~af6e7fe5 - bgm_ex1_rest_sharean
    ~b87f1fec - bgm_ex1_field_dravanial02
    ~b237bf66 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_magicc_01
    ~ba323daf - bgm_ex1_dungeon_dravanial_01
    ~bb1b1164 - bgm_ex1_boss_01
    ~c1a746da - bgm_ex1_field_ishsebu02
    ~c9c8f0fa - bgm_ex1_event_ishdragonhead
    ~c17c42b6 - bgm_ex1_event_ishwar
    ~c4724153 - bgm_ex1_event_dragon
    ~d8cd53e8 - bgm_ex1_town_ish02_day
    ~e9f715b5 - bgm_ex1_opening_5.1
    ~e040c3fb - bgm_ex1_dungeon_kyoko
    ~e1406f2d - bgm_ex1_town_ish01_day
    ~f597c5b6 - bgm_ex1_dungeon_magicc_02
    ~fcc76f6a - bgm_ex1_field_ishsebu03

  15. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuki View Post
    seems like it might be a good trade-off to use wanderer's with songs (still a 5% bonus damage). Minus AA of course but with the new ws's to be used during it, it may make up for that. Unless the DET nerf is severe and AA is useless sadly I don't think we'll see much of any of the new stuff from bard since we don't have to sing that often. Although if it works out this way it will make for a more rounded bard experience.

    I would have rathered to be able to use the new songs and weaponskills more often but I don't think the AA penalty will be worth it. Unless theres some awesome combo i'm missing with barrage change and DET nerf is incredibly severe... maybe barage combo with sidewinder with both dots on? i dunno. Feels like I'm missing something here, I would wanna use the new abilities often because cool, but it doesn't look like I will?
    idk now, EmpArrow is 15s recast 240pot, that's pretty nice, and teamed with Barrage that's 820pot skill. Iron Jaws means no need to re-do dots at all it seems, especially amaze if that means I can keep Buffed dots up fulltime AND it should lower our TP use, which means stacked SkS could be beast. Added with that, Sidewinder will be a big hit. BRD is even burstier then before now, with some really high pot moves, as compared to before.

  16. #196
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    the english description for ninja lvl 58 abi is vague as fuck

    japanese ones says:
    can use same single target WS twice in row
    both hit will never crit tho, add effect only adds once (eg, DOT wont be written in log twice)

  17. #197
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    Crafted jewelry looks like it has 3 stats ?

    edit: idk how to read this shit i dont wanna start rumour

  18. #198
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    Metal Gears Rising.......

    solracht confirmed for prophet

  19. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judai View Post
    idk now, EmpArrow is 15s recast 240pot, that's pretty nice, and teamed with Barrage that's 820pot skill. Iron Jaws means no need to re-do dots at all it seems, especially amaze if that means I can keep Buffed dots up fulltime AND it should lower our TP use, which means stacked SkS could be beast. Added with that, Sidewinder will be a big hit. BRD is even burstier then before now, with some really high pot moves, as compared to before.
    oh 0 can u post me the traits? I haven't seen em yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    the english description for ninja lvl 58 abi is vague as fuck

    japanese ones says:
    can use same single target WS twice in row
    both hit will never crit tho, add effect only adds once (eg, DOT wont be written in log twice)
    Seemed pretty clear to me, makes it do double damage but can't crit. Will be nice with shit like Trick Attack > Aeolian Edge for burst. BRD has a similar skill wtih Barrage now.

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