Let's talk Warrior (3.0 Heavensward Discussion) - Future Fell Cleave e-peen thread

[Aiurily]

that super low healer dps to compensate though

lol

[Eludi]

820 on a3s this week, playing somewhat safe for ball movement so I lose probably like 20 there, also no ninja =(

[Niiro]

also no ninja =(

.....eh?

NIN doesn't help WAR's damage, WAR helps NIN's damage >_>

Or you meant TA I guess?

[Ramset]

Yeah. TA usually lines up pretty nicely with my Zerk combos for some real nice burst.

I also decided I don't care that much about e-peening DPS right now since gear is so varied at the moment. BiS is when the real numbers come out.

[Kiarax]

I've been trying to optimize 2 simply because it's the only one I feel like I really can right now. Upping numbers in 1 and 3 involves playing risky (it's really just a case of turning off tank stance, no notable change in actual playstyle or what you do in the fight) and I don't want to waste 7 other peoples time doing silly shit just for the sake of my own numbers, especially when people mostly just wanna get in there and get things killed. That and using an AST instead of a WHM has just meant not taking unnecessary risks.

[Ramset]

I've yet to party with an AST in any end game fight, only dungeons. Healing not as high it seems, but are their buffs noticeable?

[Lucavi]

.....eh?

NIN doesn't help WAR's damage, WAR helps NIN's damage >_>

Or you meant TA I guess?

Getting TA during every zerked triple cleave segment is fucking delicious.

[Eludi]

Getting TA during every zerked triple cleave segment is fucking delicious.

Personally I only do triple fell cleave berserk twice during the fight, both time when tanking the boss when hand is out, at other points there is always some point where you need to save your raw intuition and vengeance for next main tank phase

[Niiro]

Idk how you'd be getting it on every one considering TA is 60s and Zerk is 90.

[Kiarax]

I've yet to party with an AST in any end game fight, only dungeons. Healing not as high it seems, but are their buffs noticeable?

If we got buffs they might be! She uses pretty much all of her resources on MP recovery, because if she doesn't she always ooms and making the BRD ballad any more than he already has to isn't worth. So she'll prepull spear or ewer for herself and spend most of the fight shuffling cards in hopes of getting more. I'm not sure how much of it is necessary or if there was just some more optimization to be made to save MP (she's always been a great healer so I usually just take her word for it when she says its necessary). She actually just dropped out of our group lastnight though, so maybe I will be able to afford to do some more silly shit if we find a WHM replacement. One thing I will say is Synastry is a really great cooldown though! It let the SCH completely neglect healing during stuff like the 4 Jagd Dolls in A2S whilst Synastry keeps both tanks easily topped off. I assume a WHM could probably do the same thing with cooldowns too though without being detrimental the rest of the fight, lol.

[Niiro]

I'd say one of the issues with AST is the support element doesn't complement their healing at all while also taking a lot of time and attention to get the most out of, which leaves you with a healer who can't heal as well as WHM and cant DPS as well as SCH and RNG as fuck support buffs are supposed to make up the difference somehow, which the AST has to manage on the fly while healing.

WHM doesn't need RNG cards to maintain their MP and has much more raw healing power, SCH doesn't need RNG cards to help the party's damage and has much more general utility (and it's not RNG based).

[Lucavi]

Idk how you'd be getting it on every one considering TA is 60s and Zerk is 90.

Should I amend it to "every opening zerked triple cleave segment" for you, then? Is that okay?

[Niiro]

Well......that would make sense then, so yes?

[TheBlazed]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sLaoo/pubhtml#

Found a nice FFXIV DPS Savage Leaderboard for all words.... you can look to see what other jobs are doing DPS wise

[Jem]

Man, that PLD high looks pretty attainable if I tried!

[Ramset]

I know I said I didn't care about DPS... but dat A2S tho.

[Fondue]

Super jealous of groups that get paeon

[Jahaudant]

Haven't cleared A2 yet but I'm usually around 1250 on the last phase... where are you 'zerking Ramset?

[Fondue]

Also how do you have 5 dd deaths lol

[Kiarax]

Also how do you have 5 dd deaths lol

Merging pets with owners means Egis and turrets count as deaths for the player.