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  1. #981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Surely SE won't leave a job hanging for 8 months? right?!


    Does this look like the face of a man who would do such a thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    You're forgetting we have 3 months minimum of grinding airship exploration missions which drop spiritbondable 180+ gear, T5 materia isn't going to be rare come 3.2.
    Take into account that SBing gear will still leave us with a surplus of elemental/dex/int/mnd materia, a more than likely shitty % actually converting to T5, people like me hoarding the good ones, and demand going up. It's not going to be cheap by a long shot, and especially not at launch.

  3. #983
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCem View Post
    Take into account that SBing gear will still leave us with a surplus of elemental/dex/int/mnd materia, a more than likely shitty % actually converting to T5, people like me hoarding the good ones, and demand going up. It's not going to be cheap by a long shot, and especially not at launch.

    I don't think it will be that bad. You will only need one T5 VIT for each accessory. Start farming your T5s at the beginning of 3.1 and you will surely have 2-5 by the time 3.2 drops. Most tanks will be very late to the party anyways, just like with the i150s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    I don't think it will be that bad. You will only need one T5 VIT for each accessory. Start farming your T5s at the beginning of 3.1 and you will surely have 2-5 by the time 3.2 drops. Most tanks will be very late to the party anyways, just like with the i150s.
    It's melding the left side that worries me most if I'm honest. Those are the materia that will have the highest demand and cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCem View Post
    It's melding the left side that worries me most if I'm honest. Those are the materia that will have the highest demand and cost.

    Good point. So that'll be the CRIT/DET/SS Materia.

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    So I jealously hoarded all my materia from ARR launch to about 2 months ago, when i started selling it off. it's all almost gone now.



    fuck me runnin

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    So I jealously hoarded all my materia from ARR launch to about 2 months ago, when i started selling it off. it's all almost gone now.



    fuck me runnin

    I'm selling mine off too.

    I'll either want Vs or there will be something new for raid gear. No point in holding onto all these IVs with the huge price serge.

  8. #988
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c97104f8e7308e

    Shield Swipe
    -Is now an ability and does not trigger global cooldown.
    -Recast time has been adjusted to 15 seconds.
    -Potency has been reduced from 210 to 150.

    Goring Blade
    TP cost has been reduced from 60 to 50.

    Shield Bash
    TP cost has been reduced from 150 to 120.

  9. #989
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    Wow.

    Just, wow. I'm not even angry anymore, just disappointed. Like, this won't solve PLD's TP issues (goring blade is the ability they use the least), it sure as fuck won't solve those 'aggro issues' they were talking about (which actually is kind of a issue if you want to go full sword oath against dungeon bosses and don't have fully maxed out i200 gear and potato tier dps), it won't solve DPS issues, it won't solve Clemency or Divine Veil being total ass.

    The feel very much like "here we changed it you ungrateful fuckers now shut up" changes. What a slap in the damn face.

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    PLDs are not suposed to DPS.

  11. #991
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    To be fair, they (mostly) did what we wanted to be done with Shield Swipe. It does more DPS than Reprisal, for a comparison.

    When it comes to SE, it's all about baby steps.

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    The question is, does Swipe still have a TP cost associated with it? If so, our TP is probably worse off now since we'll be using Swipe on cooldown (as blocks allow) so we're losing 40 TP every 15-25 seconds and gaining 10 TP every 22 or so?

    But really this change is a slap in the face. Yes, it's slightly favorable (when TP allows it) but doesn't change anything in the tank hierarchy.

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    Abilities don't cost TP, so they probably didn't feel the need to specify it.

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    It won't use TP. Its a free 600 pot a minute MTing. Does it fix PLD, not at all, but it does make its MT DPS better which was the biggest concern. Also assuming swipe has the same hate modifier its a big jump in enmity gain.

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    It's dead. Check back at 4.0.

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    Hopefully it doesn't require a shield block to activate like reprisal does.

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    finally PLD got fixed.

  18. #998
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCem View Post
    Hopefully it doesn't require a shield block to activate like reprisal does.


    You know it will. But you have sheltron every 30 seconds to force it. I kinda wish it didn't have a CD so we could do interesting burst with bulwark+FoF but then every PLD would be rocking bucklers making tower and kite shields shit tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    It won't use TP. Its a free 600 pot a minute MTing. Does it fix PLD, not at all, but it does make its MT DPS better which was the biggest concern. Also assuming swipe has the same hate modifier its a big jump in enmity gain.
    I think it will work out more like 350-400 free pot a minute because it's not like you can guarantee it's flashing as soon as the cooldown is up. Either through not blocking or mob mechanics it might not be up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    You know it will. But you have sheltron every 30 seconds to force it. I kinda wish it didn't have a CD so we could do interesting burst with bulwark+FoF but then every PLD would be rocking bucklers making tower and kite shields shit tier.
    I always liked popping rampart for some swipe spam, good for a breather to get some tp back as well as some decent enmity in sword oath.

    Shelltron forces a shield block? I thought it negated a hit?

    Oh well, I haven't done anything meaningful on pld since SCoB, doubt I'd go back to it now anyway. Only got it to 60 to tool around with in Alex normal for the mount. Which I got bored with after 20 out so runs.

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