Machinist - New Headless Running DPS

[Judai]

I find I like Hax's opener @60. Turn off GB right at the end for the last split/blank/slug. I consistently hit 6k+ Wildfire easily. (depending on pt set-up and if I use pots, I can break 7k (nin or drg in pt))

Set-Up

Turret out/GB on

Pre-pull
@5s
-Quelling Strikes
-Hawks Eye
-Raging Strikes
-Blood for Blood
-Hypercharge

On Pull

Precast Hot Shot

----Pull---- (hot shot hits)

-DEX potion
Lead Shot
-Reload
Split Shot
-Wildfire
Slug Shot
-Rapid Fire
-Reassemble
Clean Shot
-Ricochet
Split Shot
-Gauss Round
Slug Shot
-Head Graze
Clean Shot
-Quick Reload
--Drop Gauss Barrel
Split Shot
-Blank

[Aiurily]

do this instead. you get blank buffed by gauss and qr on cd earlier, and your rapid fire covers two split shots, so no cast time for lots of GCDs. around 2.38-2.39 gcd is recommended for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ejJRugvFU

(RS+HE+BFB+HC)-Hot Shot (Dex Potion) - Lead Shot (Reload) - Split Shot (Wildfire) - Slug Shot (Reassemble+Quick Reload) - Clean Shot (Rapid Fire+Ricochet) - Split Shot (Gauss Round) - Slug Shot (Head Graze) - Split Shot (Blank) - Clean Shot (Gauss off) - Slug Shot - Split Shot (Wildfire detonate)

[Judai]

sounds good, i'll try it out, thanks

[Spider-Dan]

(RS+HE+BFB+HC)-Hot Shot (Dex Potion) - Lead Shot (Reload) - Split Shot (Wildfire) - Slug Shot (Reassemble+Quick Reload) - Clean Shot (Rapid Fire+Ricochet) - Split Shot (Gauss Round) - Slug Shot (Head Graze) - Split Shot (Blank) - Clean Shot (Gauss off) - Slug Shot [here]- Split Shot (Wildfire detonate)

Wouldn't it be better to turn off GB after the last Slug instead of before? Split Shot should come out at the same time either way.

[Aiurily]

you turn it off after clean shot, so that you can fit in 2 auto attacks before wildfire detonate. it looks like this roughly

clean shot>gauss off+auto attack>slug shot>split shot+auto attack>wildfire detonate

whereas with gauss on for slug it'd look like

clean shot>slug shot>gauss off+auto attack>split shot>wildfire detonate>auto attack

slug+auto is more potent than slug+gauss atm, and you want that 2nd auto in wildfire

[Soho]

These openers are great. Thanks!

Couple of questions about later in the rotation though:
1. Are you typically using Reload & Quick Reload on CD after the opener?
2. Do you sit on B4B to align it with HE/Wildfire?
3. What else (if anything) are you not using on CD in order to align later in the rotation?

[AnnaMolly]

I find I like Hax's opener @60. Turn off GB right at the end for the last split/blank/slug. I consistently hit 6k+ Wildfire easily. (depending on pt set-up and if I use pots, I can break 7k (nin or drg in pt))

Set-Up

Turret out/GB on

Pre-pull
@5s
-Quelling Strikes
-Hawks Eye
-Raging Strikes
-Blood for Blood
-Hypercharge

On Pull

Precast Hot Shot

----Pull---- (hot shot hits)

-DEX potion
Lead Shot
-Reload
Split Shot
-Wildfire
Slug Shot
-Rapid Fire
-Reassemble
Clean Shot
-Ricochet
Split Shot
-Gauss Round
Slug Shot
-Head Graze
Clean Shot
-Quick Reload
--Drop Gauss Barrel
Split Shot
-Blank

I use Hax's as well. I need to stock up on DEX pots though.

What I find tricky is going from 1, 2, 3/oGCD spam back into burst mode. I feel like I need to throttle myself just before Wildfire is back up in order to make a bigger Wildfire but in reality, i probably just need to throw it on and spam the shit out of whatever is up.

[Judai]

These openers are great. Thanks!

Couple of questions about later in the rotation though:
1. Are you typically using Reload & Quick Reload on CD after the opener?
2. Do you sit on B4B to align it with HE/Wildfire?
3. What else (if anything) are you not using on CD in order to align later in the rotation?

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. If anything is coming up in the 5-10s before Wildfire, I typically try to hold it(if Gauss will come back up before Wildfire is over, use it before).

The Second Wildfire will get B4B/Hawk's/QR and w/e oGCDs happened to line up with it, which is at least Gauss. Depending on how things line up, I typically try to bait/save a Slug and/or Clean just before Wildfire, so I can try to use those but it doesn't always work and you don't want to delay Wildfire to try baiting procs.

You should keep everything on CD, except Hypercharge, which you save 30s for the third Wildfire, which, if you used everything on CD, will have EVERYTHING(except the DEX pot), up for it, so you get that huge burst again. Obviously, if you HAVE to use Hypercharge for Ballad, you should, it just lowers your burst on that third Wildfire.

[Spider-Dan]

It also bears mentioning that you should not save Hypercharge for Wildfire if 1) you are using Bishop for AoE or 2) you have a caster-heavy party.

[Judai]

if you are using bishop for aoe, it's prolly trash mobs, so it doesn't really matter but it could help if it's srs adds, stuff can be institutional sure. idk if having 2+ casters would mean swapping to bishop for single target to use hypercharge is better or not, maybe.

[Niiro]

The difference between the Rook and Bishop attacks is only 20 potency, if you've got multiple casters it would make up that difference, but if you've got 2 casters you're in a full party which means you've also got 2 tanks doing physical damage and one other physical DPS, so even with 2 casters the physical vulnerability would win out.

If it's 3 casters, then I'd say Bishop would be worth it.

[Victor_Viper]

The difference between the Rook and Bishop attacks is only 20 potency, if you've got multiple casters it would make up that difference, but if you've got 2 casters you're in a full party which means you've also got 2 tanks doing physical damage and one other physical DPS, so even with 2 casters the physical vulnerability would win out.

If it's 3 casters, then I'd say Bishop would be worth it.

One could even make the argument that, in a dps push phase, both healers could Cleric Stance and benefit from Bishop (making it 4 physical vs 4 magical), but most numbers I've been seeing show tanks capable of pushing harder numbers than healers when it comes to dps, so it does come back to your last line to be the deciding factor.

[AnnaMolly]

I'm not quite sure what I need to prioritize more of between Determination, Skill Speed, and Critical Hit Rate. =/

[Niiro]

Avoid skill speed where possible.

Beyond that, doesn't matter.

Same goes for every DPS except BRD (who gain more from crit).

[AnnaMolly]

Avoid skill speed where possible.

Beyond that, doesn't matter.

Same goes for every DPS except BRD (who gain more from crit).

MCH already feels sluggish.

EDIT: 2.42s GCD on MCH.

[Aiurily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6P3aMPO4lA

mch gimmicks

[Kirbyprime]

interesting... didn't notice, did he actually parse his turret to check how big a drop in dps doing that caused.

[Vuitton]

So, the turrets can auto-attack on top of their normal attacks? Wut?

[AnnaMolly]

Is there any relevance in calculating DPS with Wildfire to compare Gauss Barrel vs. not Gauss Barrel? 943.4 without, 942.9 with.

I did this by Wildfire damage multiplied by four then divided by fifteen. Wildfire damage is 25% of total damage dealt within 15 seconds. While I'm sure those 15 seconds don't mean much given it was only 15 seconds and that the difference is so small I'm curious as to what my DPS would look like spread out over an entire fight. Probably overthinking things and pissing in the wind though. >.>

[Spider-Dan]

So, the turrets can auto-attack on top of their normal attacks? Wut?

No, he's spamming Promotion so that all of the normal downtime between turret attacks is filled with MP/TP regen.

Imagine if 2.0 BRD songs were instant cast and turned off auto-attack during them. You could auto-attack, turn on song, turn it off 5sec later and get another auto-attack, turn it back on, etc. Your number of autoattacks would decrease, but you'd be doing "both things at the same time."