Reddit drama enters 2nd phase. Default subs go dark.

[Obsidian]

No, the question was explicitly "what do you think the Founding Fathers would think of reddit?"

They can think of it as a bastion of free speech without it being intended to be one. You cannot infer from this specific quote that they intentionally created it to be one.

Edit: Here's the actual article the quote is pulled from.

[Tyrath]

A bastion of free speech on the World Wide Web?

He's saying its a bastion of free speech right there.

As in "It's a bastion of free speech on the web SO they would like it." not "They would think its a bastion of free speech."

[Blubbartron]

Yeah, you have to be pretty obtuse to think it wasn't intended to be a platform for free speech. Shit, the other guy that helped create reddit was a moral pirate who stole stuff that shitty sites had behind paywalls so that everyone had open, free access to information. If you think the creators weren't of similar mindsets, you're kidding yourself.

[Tyche]

Welp, the shitshow has hit critical mass.

But... the most delicious part of this is that on at least two separate occasions, the board pressed /u/ekjp[5] to outright ban ALL the hate subreddits in a sweeping purge. She resisted, knowing the community, claiming it would be a shitshow. Ellen isn’t some “evil, manipulative, out-of-touch incompetent she-devil” as was often depicted. She was approved by the board and recommended by me because when I left, she was the only technology executive anywhere who had the chops and experience to manage a startup of this size, AND who understood what reddit was all about. As we can see from her post-resignation activity[6] , she knows perfectly well how to fit in with the reddit community and is a normal, funny person - just like in real life - she simply didn’t sit on reddit all day because she was busy with her day job.
Ellen was more or less inclined to continue upholding my free-speech policies. /r/fatpeoplehate[7] was banned for inciting off-site harassment, not discussing fat-shaming. What all the white-power racist-sexist neckbeards don’t understand is that with her at the head of the company, the company would be immune to accusations of promoting sexism and racism: she is literally Silicon Valley’s #1 Feminist Hero, so any “SJWs” would have a hard time attacking the company for intentionally creating a bastion (heh) of sexist/racist content. She probably would have tolerated your existence so long as you didn’t cause any problems - I know that her long-term strategies were to find ways to surface and publicize reddit’s good parts - allowing the bad parts to exist but keeping them out of the spotlight. It would have been very principled - the CEO of reddit, who once sued her previous employer for sexual discrimination, upholds free speech and tolerates the ugly side of humanity because it is so important to maintaining a platform for open discourse. It would have been unassailable.
Well, now she’s gone (you did it reddit!), and /u/spez[8] has the moral authority as a co-founder to move ahead with the purge. We tried to let you govern yourselves and you failed, so now The Man is going to set some Rules. Admittedly, I can’t say I’m terribly upset.

TL:DR
Reddit board has been trying to remove hateful subreddits for a long time. Ellen Pao was the one holding them back, citing free speech concerns. Oops.

[Thunder]

eh, we know pao's pretty scummy from her "literally Silicon Valley's #1 Feminist Hero" escapades

feminist hero lol, there's evidence she was mean to every female she worked with, sued the #1 female hiring firm in the world for sexism (lol), banned salary negotiations because woe is female (I understand most people wont understand the nuance of this, but whatever), AND she didn't know how to use reddit despite ^ saying she was the best for the job.

Giving her props for sueing her previous employer on discrimination is pretty scummy in itself. It was proven false on every allegation and then she tried to negotiate (gasp) a 2.7 million payout or else she'd appeal.

[Eurell]

Welp, the shitshow has hit critical mass.



TL:DR
Reddit board has been trying to remove hateful subreddits for a long time. Ellen Pao was the one holding them back, citing free speech concerns. Oops.

I don't doubt that the current admins are also fucking awful. But I don't trust this guy at all lol. What the fuck kind of former CEO comes in and just starts talking shit like this? Sounds like he's just pissy that his friend (that he hired) got fired. Don't really care either way though.

[Churchill]

yeah that guy sounds like he's being a huge bitch

I mean, reddit is awful, but getting into a pissing contest isn't going to work out that well. sup something awful. sup lue.

[Marootsoobutsu]

female minority in tech is more valuable than something absurdly valuable

You are a painter with words.

[Airenn]

ok so what the fuck is going on with reddit now? goddamnit I miss a day and apparently something has happened because its flooded with the same pic of some new person and I have no idea why

[BaneTheBrawler]

Doesn't really have anything to do with the drama in this thread. Check out the presidential election thread; she's been plastered there too.

[Airenn]

Nah I just dont wanna start a new stupid shit reddit's on thread.

[AnnaMolly]

So, Reddit is up in arms against Amazon now?

[Thunder]

I don't see that (not a reddit user though, idk where to look besides front page - all - rising)

what do you mean? links?

[AnnaMolly]

I don't see that (not a reddit user though, idk where to look besides front page - all - rising)

what do you mean? links?

It was on r/all I kept seeing posts about Amazon's bad business practices. I can't find them now, only thing I see is a post about a stolen Amazon package and a "Fuck Amazon, Fuck Comcast" post from Circlejerk.

[Guitarman]

NY did a lengthy piece on some of she shadier shit Amazon does. Stories of people stricken with cancer being put on action plans, 80 hour workweeks, and this:

Amazon came under fire in 2011 when workers in an eastern Pennsylvania warehouse toiled in more than 100-degree heat with ambulances waiting outside, taking away laborers as they fell. After an investigation by the local newspaper, the company installed air-conditioning.)

Put them in a pretty bad light. Long read, but pretty telling about the culture.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/te...workplace.html

[Churchill]

take a knee and drink water is a pretty good rule to live by

[Tarno]

when is there never trolling on reddit? lol

[Zetanio]

when is there never trolling on reddit? lol

omg like not ever omg. rofl. roflmao.