Alexander Discussion, Round 2: Wait is this the easy mode thread?

[Fake]

Next week when a fuckload of groups clear.

[Kipling]

Here's the clear Arthars was talking about - https://twitter.com/_amochi/status/627765945486815232

[Neon_Sea]

Anyone have some healing tips for double prey + lasers in floor 1?

[Arthars]

damn black >< theres 1 more day to go tho gogogog!

yea once tmr hits, you can expect 10+ groups posting clears all over twitter/social media

on the other hand, im still stick at @last piston pudding doing an usian bolt on me....

and also static not practiciong past 2 days

AND THEN STATIC GOT AN AST

im so not getting a A3 clear anytime soon. i bet my mule will get the clear earlier in pugs than my main do on static

AST is just too dead weight

[lilbubbles]

The mistake people make when new is to over heal the prey. It's just basic healer instinct to keep people at full health, but if you do that the tanks will die.

They don't need full health, they just need to survive. There is no aoe for about 30 seconds after double prey.

The real key is sch saving lustrates in their pocket to pick up slack at that very moment.

[Neon_Sea]

Yeah I noticed that too, do you think it is a good idea to leave prey to Sch solo, while our whm deals with raid/tank? We seem to run into that exact problem where healers are overhealing and someone ends up dead because too much focus.

[Kaisha]

I've done both methods, and I find I struggle more as a SCH dealing with both preys alone, burning lustrates as I bounce adlos between the two before the sixth hit of the attack lands, vs. managing one prey, and then eventually topping a tank off for the buster.

It's around...15k overall damage per prey?

[Niiro]

I've seen them hammer me for more than 3k per on NIN.

[Neon_Sea]

Sounds about right, 3k per and 5 its around.

[Niiro]

6 hits total.

Not terribly helpful but they're physical damage, Shade Shift will work to cushion the first couple of hits, I've popped Keen Flurry as well but I've never seen a parry.

[Kaisha]

On the healing note again, for the 4 Jagd wave in A2S, is Sacred Soil viable?

Typically I never use the thing outside of large unavoidable raid damage, but christ that's a lot of damage that goes out to both tanks in that wave, and I can't tell if it'd possibly mitigate more damage with both of them inside it than a non-crit'd lustrate would heal.

[Kipling]

Wait for them to toss the fire shit, virus/adlo and any other prep you have cause they're above to cleave.

[MisterBob]

In addition to out-ranging the Jagd cleave, you can actually LoS it too. After they're done with Blitzstrahl or whatever, wait until they start the turning around animation and run through them.

This doesn't work if you're tanking two that aren't in sync, however. If you attempt to do it there the second one will likely cleave the DPS if they're behind it, so be careful.

[Jem]

damn black >< theres 1 more day to go tho gogogog!

yea once tmr hits, you can expect 10+ groups posting clears all over twitter/social media

on the other hand, im still stick at @last piston pudding doing an usian bolt on me....

and also static not practiciong past 2 days

AND THEN STATIC GOT AN AST

im so not getting a A3 clear anytime soon. i bet my mule will get the clear earlier in pugs than my main do on static

AST is just too dead weight

Our static setup is

PLD DRK
AST SCH
DRG BLM SMN MCH

So I feel your pain, we could probably only make that setup weaker if we deliberately tried to. But nobody wants to force people to play other jobs.

[Churchill]

I will never understand that

[Ramset]

Our static setup is

PLD DRK
AST SCH
DRG BLM SMN MCH

So I feel your pain, we could probably only make that setup weaker if we deliberately tried to. But nobody wants to force people to play other jobs.

I mean, realistically that's a viable comp...it's just not optimal. At the very least your MCH might wanna consider switching to BRD since you have 2 caster DPS and Foe is still the tits.

[Jem]

Oh yeah I know it's viable, we're just making it more difficult for ourselves than need be. The MCH is probably being switched to a BRD too as he's going to struggle to make our run times.

It might be because of all the new abilities but the difference is definitely noticeable compared to our 2.0 composition (WAR PLD WHM SCH DRG BLM SMN BRD)

[Don Katsu]

Wonder when the first kill with Pld on A3s will come

This week when everyone picks up their ilvl200 weapon

[Kaslo]

This week when everyone picks up their ilvl200 weapon

Congrats on being the 20th person to say that.

[Don Katsu]

Congrats on being the 20th person to say that.

OMG you're so clever and funny!

No wait.. Who else said the exact same thing I did? Just one person and they said when other groups clear.