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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    did with pug group yesterday... got to 10%.....

    how the fuck can we make more dps?!?!?!?!? it was 69% after phase 2, so it seem DPS is in check

    prolly need alot alot alot more used to last phase to push out DPS numbers...

    also the pug used LB3 caster for boss + hands. is that more efficient than LB3 boss you think?

    as for last phase debuffs, out of all the various ways the pugs do it for now, since no standard way has been established yet, i think the best way to do it is:
    1. tank who got it, go right below boss and wait
    2. DPS who didnt get debuff, goes right under boss to wait
    3. DPS who got damage down debuff, stay wherever they are and dps the shit out of boss
    4. both healers go to the DPSs and grab debuffs/exchange
    If it was 69% was after phase 2, does seem like dps is in check, maybe execution + bad cd usage last phase? not confortable enough? Tank positioning can cockblock people a fair bit, so you might look into that, how was the tank positioning in that pug?

  2. #482
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    PUGs can't even do A1 on Sargatanas. My wife insists we shouldn't transfer though...
    Stop going with Baby Cakez and you'll get through it.

  3. #483
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    PUGs can't even do A1 on Sargatanas. My wife insists we shouldn't transfer though...
    She's clearly cheating on you.

  4. #484
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    Stop going with Baby Cakez and you'll get through it.
    Heh, I've seen this person in PF a few times but haven't had the pleasure. Evidently, he or she seems have a bit of a reputation..?

  5. #485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Heh, I've seen this person in PF a few times but haven't had the pleasure. Evidently, he or she seems have a bit of a reputation..?
    Can't say I've had an issue with 'em, tho I can't remember if I've actually partied with 'em either.

    Ah well, maybe tonite. Gonna need a fill-in healer for my FC group.

  6. #486
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Heh, I've seen this person in PF a few times but haven't had the pleasure. Evidently, he or she seems have a bit of a reputation..?
    Yeah, maybe she improved slightly, but her straight out of jersey accent aside, she makes overhealing look like the new hotness.

  7. #487
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    Quote Originally Posted by amadouche View Post
    If it was 69% was after phase 2, does seem like dps is in check, maybe execution + bad cd usage last phase? not confortable enough? Tank positioning can cockblock people a fair bit, so you might look into that, how was the tank positioning in that pug?
    positioning was always infront of a puddle for tanks, im leaning towards uncomfortable yet i guess

    i kinda focus a little more on gimmick than my actual rotation tbh

    i'll get this down next week i guess ><

  8. #488
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    a pug grp just cleared AS3 on chocobo

    fml i missed that boat....

  9. #489
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    a pug grp just cleared AS3 on chocobo

    fml i missed that boat....


    JP servers sound awesome. I'm scared to even try a PUG A1S due to the NA player base.

  10. #490
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    JP servers sound awesome. I'm scared to even try a PUG A1S due to the NA player base.
    Once I went in with a PUG and after Faust the MNK, on TeamSpeak, yelled "Fuck yeah 1400 dps. I'm so good". I filtered it out to Faust only and his real dps was closer to 900. He then proceeded to parse 600 on oppressor.

    I hope my new static can get some shit done. Getting kinda' bored.

    Anyway..... Does anyone who follows this stuff have any update on the top groups progress on A4? How far are people getting, what are the walls?

  11. #491
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    Once I went in with a PUG and after Faust the MNK, on TeamSpeak, yelled "Fuck yeah 1400 dps. I'm so good". I filtered it out to Faust only and his real dps was closer to 900. He then proceeded to parse 600 on oppressor.

    I hope my new static can get some shit done. Getting kinda' bored.

    Anyway..... Does anyone who follows this stuff have any update on the top groups progress on A4? How far are people getting, what are the walls?
    People are having issues surviving. One group was saying they had all 8 members spec 35 points into vit and are still unable to live through certain mechanics. So A4S right now seems like a defensive/HP gear wall.

  12. #492
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    People are having issues surviving. One group was saying they had all 8 members spec 35 points into vit and are still unable to live through certain mechanics. So A4S right now seems like a defensive/HP gear wall.
    inb4 the first group to clear does it with a full VIT PLD for Divine Veil shield

    Oh god that would be hilarious.

  13. #493
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    inb4 the first group to clear does it with a full VIT PLD for Divine Veil shield

    Oh god that would be hilarious.

    I could see PLD being really good based on the stream I've watched. The add was causing lots of trouble but PLD can sheltron a hit and clemency when HP gets low. The add is a tank swap though but WAR will have Equilibrium/2nd wind.

    Divine veil would be good for the lazers (5 go out) but I never saw past the second leg to see any new mechanics.

  14. #494
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    I'd be lying if I didn't debate making a full VIT gear macro just to pop pre-pull divine veils and then quickly swap to my regular shit before actually engaging. It seems like the issue is more fucking everything in A4 and not one specific thing though. If it was a singular predictable occurrence I'm sure people would just blow through it with every mitigation known to man.
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    In during AST is mandatory just for the extra 10% reduction on Disable

  15. #495
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    Ever since I first did Alex normal I couldn't help but get the sneaking suspicion that the reason Alex goes untargetable before using Mortal Rev is to prevent reliable use of virus/disable/rend mind.

    But really, the moment PLD got Sheltron/Veil and AST got Disable (and it wasn't mutually exclusive with Virus) it was pretty clear that certain kinds of attacks/incoming damage patterns would no longer be happening.

    ie. We'll probably never see a Flatten ever again.

  16. #496
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    Must be that random ray beam move. If it was a huge AoE attack seems like you could prepare for it with mantra/conv/adloq/deployment

  17. #497
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    ie. We'll probably never see a Flatten ever again.
    Yep, Sheltron pretty much capped enemy design. Because of balance we will never see another single hit physical tank buster during the 60 cap. (later they could give DRK/WAR the sheltron equivalent)

  18. #498
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    SE just hasn't realised this yet. Now, imagine the boiling fury on OF when the first round of class balance adjustments nerfs Sheltron.

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    ... and buffs Fell Cleave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Ever since I first did Alex normal I couldn't help but get the sneaking suspicion that the reason Alex goes untargetable before using Mortal Rev is to prevent reliable use of virus/disable/rend mind.

    But really, the moment PLD got Sheltron/Veil and AST got Disable (and it wasn't mutually exclusive with Virus) it was pretty clear that certain kinds of attacks/incoming damage patterns would no longer be happening.

    ie. We'll probably never see a Flatten ever again.
    You can still keep them on, but your timing needs to be fantastic.

  20. #500
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    Anyone else having problems with the lag in A3S instances? For some reason or another we have had people d/c and casts being interrupt in there for a second week a row now.

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