Escha - Ru'Aun thread

[Shadowlina]

Ark Angel HM CAN use multiple Mjinn's back to back.
Just wiped to it using Mjinn 4 times total. Not fun. And he can use it as early as 25%, so can easily wipe a group if not prepared.

[Fwahm]

AAHM can use Mijin at above 50%.

[dasva]

So is there any kind of other than the rare enemy thing to make the lotto pops happen more often? I ask cause I just watched a regular pt farming warder of hope... and watched there entire pt kill regular sharks rather slowly for a full pt but they would pop warder within 1-2 kills each time

[Ihina]

Nevermind

[fantasticdan]

So is there any kind of other than the rare enemy thing to make the lotto pops happen more often? I ask cause I just watched a regular pt farming warder of hope... and watched there entire pt kill regular sharks rather slowly for a full pt but they would pop warder within 1-2 kills each time

Well there is a zone buff from domain invasion that increases the chance of rare spawns, besides that I don't think so. Maybe the rare enemy chance stacks between multiple players?

[Kensagaku]

Well there is a zone buff from domain invasion that increases the chance of rare spawns, besides that I don't think so. Maybe the rare enemy chance stacks between multiple players?

Some members of my linkshell and I think this as well. Solo some pops take forever, but when we party up we generally see spawns a lot faster. Perhaps the rare spawn chance does increase? It could just be eyeballing though.

[Lolwutt]

I don't think they stack between players, I routinely hit chain 100-150 before pop when all 6 of the characters I'm using have 4 rare enemy+ active. It's just variance screwing with you. Likely the rare enemy+ from whoever dealt the killshot applies.

[fantasticdan]

Are all of your characters tagging the mobs thou? Warders can spawn from DoT kills so I don't think killshot matters.

[Shadowlina]

THE GREAT WARDER OF COURAGE HAS BEEN FELLED!!

Edited: The original got taken down. This one should work.

[Lolwutt]

Are all of your characters tagging the mobs thou? Warders can spawn from DoT kills so I don't think killshot matters.

DoT kill still dies with claim as the person who last touched it. All my melee hit every mob, geo tags, so 4/6 minimum. I never farm with less or more than 6 due to need for silt and the way xp falls off at 7 people. A quick ctrl-f for defeats eschan/defeats warder on my brd got me 61/5052 on pop(brd always in group).. would put it at .012(1/83). This is within expected margins for SE's listed 1/76 at 4 rare enemy+ vorseals.

Looking at it from a development standpoint, the most logical option is to just apply the vorseals from whoever would have gotten the potential pop and I see no reason to believe they did it any other way.

[Toth]

I warms my heart to see a PUP at the kill.

[Shadowlina]

アルバーストラップ　IS Alber Strap, they got two of them.
a Few Eschalixers (Figure those ones out) and　working on the last.

[Lyramion]

Vorseal should be Rare Enemy+

Was updated to JP wiki 1 hour ago.

[EjinCaitsith]

Looks infinitely easier than Kirin.

Looked like 3 SCH, 2 BLM, 2 PLD, PUP, RDM, BRD, WHM and 2 GEO. 1 GEO was up close for Vex with the 2 PLDs and auto. BLM were MBing comet/death/aspir(Death was doing 40-60K even with bracelets, comet 10-20K). PLD had no issues with holding wyverns and they didn't seem to ever use mijin since they were killed promptly when popped. I question why they used PUP over a RUN, since with a RUN there'd be 3 tanks and the chances of all 3 getting charmed is probably really low(unless it spams it?) but the PLD seemed to have hate a lot of the time anyways.

Has it been confirmed WoC can use bene or did they just get really lucky. Really regretting wasting so much time doing Kirin first(thinking it'd be the easier one).

[Shadowlina]

I'm not sure myself. But one things for sure is there is at least 2 people with full Amalric +1 sets. And someone has a very good magic burst set (Someone saying they did an 80k MB nuke at one point).
Im very sure the PUP is there to prevent charm. But i have another video of another Japanese group doing it, with an indefinably larger party. the WHM got charmed very early. But from what i can tell from that video. they diddnt do a lot different other than hold the Wyverns away, with whoever popped it rather than killing.
Which either screams to me that the wyverns provide PDT/DT until killed. (I believe someone else was talking about it on the thread).

I reprinted it from NND (NicoNicoDouga), so everyone can view it with the original link in the description. They timed out but was certainly interesting how they approached the fight. (Lots of differences between this one and the other Kill)

So, there is something very diffrent in regards of damage. but they are Magic bursting, like the other group were.



I'm really sorry on the quality, there wasn't much i could do.

[EjinCaitsith]

I'm not sure myself. But one things for sure is there is at least 2 people with full Amalric +1 sets. And someone has a very good magic burst set (Someone saying they did an 80k MB nuke at one point).

The 80K was before bracelets and not exactly impressive when it comes to Death pre-braclets(it takes normal magic damage as far as I could tell in our attempt). After braclets the most damage Death did was 58K, from what I saw, so safe to say braclets adds roughly -30% DT. The most important thing in this fight is having BLM with 1200 JP, I'd say, and I assume they used 3 SCH because they only had access to 2 1200 JP BLM. The fight would probably go even faster with 3-4 1200 JP BLM.

Second video they didn't even get it to braclet mode and I assume their folly was using too many nukers that weren't 1200 JP BLM without a RUN.

[Protey]

wouldn't comet spam be better than death?

[Tachi]

PUP to counter Virelai spam seems to be the only rational explanation but unless something has changed recently it is impossible for an automaton or any other pet to get/keep hate on WoC.

[EjinCaitsith]

wouldn't comet spam be better than death?

Based on our 1.5 attempts(BLM and GEO DC'd for 20min on 2nd attempt and PLD+GEO DC'd on our best, fastest attempt where we got it to 75% in 3-4min), the key is to have the BLM using death cast first, then the 2 BLM after him cast comet. Haste/refresh the BLM as much as possible and cycle death from a new BLM every SC. When we started doing this, our kill speed drastically increased.

We got it to 60% on our first try and improved vastly for our 3rd and last attmept, but due to dcs and bene, we only got it to 55% using a similar setup. With that said, luck might be a factor, unless the JPs did something special to lock some things in the missing 9 minutes of that video.

Few notes from our runs:

•It can run out of MP from aspir spam(see pic below)

•When it uses SV, it does, in fact, spam the shit out of charm, which fealty can't block. It's super easy to just run around, so I don't think PUP is necessary at all.

•6 wyverns were out and they all started using charm. Ending up charming everyone and it went passive and regened.

•Twice it seemed to go translucent and ignored the tanks, thus spamming TP moves on the backline. Was really confusing and wasn't sure what was going on either time.

•It can use bene. Used it at 55% on our last attempt.

I'm not sure myself. But one things for sure is there is at least 2 people with full Amalric +1 sets. And someone has a very good magic burst set (Someone saying they did an 80k MB nuke at one point).

What damage from 5/5 amalric +1 BLM actually looks like! (just BoG malaise and no JA used)
http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...61d1acfc0a.jpg

[Kyreth]

Was watching Ejin on the first attempt. Spamming Dark-based spells really was knocking good-sized chunks out of WoC, and I'm curious how effective a dose of Kasutra would be.