Escha - Ru'Aun thread

[Sechs]

We usually stick the RUN tank with the SMNs so that the COR can RandomDeal/WildCard all of them together (and reset BP, Apogee, Gambit, Rayke timers) and our SMNs stay close normally. Not in front to avoid breath stuff of course.

[Protey]

We usually stick the RUN tank with the SMNs so that the COR can RandomDeal/WildCard all of them together (and reset BP, Apogee, Gambit, Rayke timers) and our SMNs stay close normally. Not in front to avoid breath stuff of course.

We didn't bother with wild card as we have never needed to reset timers.

[Sechs]

You mean you didn't use Gambit/Rayke/Apogee on Kirin but only on Kouryu?

We use Gambit/Rayke/Apogee on Kirin, and then need Gambit/Rayke again to apply it on Kouryu. Once on each target.
Usually I ask for Random Deal and request Wild Card only if RD didn't reset my Gambit/Rayke.

Apogee reset for SMNs not that necessary on Kouryu I guess, they use Astral Conduit on him and usually he's dead before AC runs out, but it kinda depends on how many people we have. Yesterday we had a full alliance of 18 people and fights were a bit longer (we still managed to kill within the 1 minute granted by Steadfast Tonic though, or very shortly after)
I'm not sure if we could manage to do Kirin without Gambit/Rayke, maybe? When we started to use this strategy our gear (and JPs!) was undoubtely worse than it is now, and we have way more practice, so it might be doable, but then again I don't see why not keeping to do things this way.

[Viar]

You mean you didn't use Gambit/Rayke/Apogee on Kirin but only on Kouryu?

We use Gambit/Rayke/Apogee on Kirin, and then need Gambit/Rayke again to apply it on Kouryu. Once on each target.
Usually I ask for Random Deal and request Wild Card only if RD didn't reset my Gambit/Rayke.

Apogee reset for SMNs not that necessary on Kouryu I guess, they use Astral Conduit on him and usually he's dead before AC runs out, but it kinda depends on how many people we have. Yesterday we had a full alliance of 18 people and fights were a bit longer (we still managed to kill within the 1 minute granted by Steadfast Tonic though, or very shortly after)
I'm not sure if we could manage to do Kirin without Gambit/Rayke, maybe? When we started to use this strategy our gear (and JPs!) was undoubtely worse than it is now, and we have way more practice, so it might be doable, but then again I don't see why not keeping to do things this way.

My experience is that gambit rayke makes huge difference, I don't see a reason not to use it. That's why I ask if other groups went for 5/5 rayke.

Run can get free JA reset with revit though, so you get 2 charges for both NM without COR reset anyways.

Do you guys also use vex attunement?

[Sechs]

I was 2/2 rayke and changed to 5/5 when we started doing kirin.

I unlocked super revit a couple of days ago, one of the smns has it and the other one doesn't

Yesterday we had vex and wilt (idris).
We've been using vex/attu as well on other days. Don't think attu (or wilt) matter that much. Vex is the important part.

[Protey]

You mean you didn't use Gambit/Rayke/Apogee on Kirin but only on Kouryu?

Only used gambit/rayke on kouryu. The first 50% goes down fast enough without gambit/rayke. If you really want to use it twice, buy a super revit.

[Sechs]

I didn't have super revit until a couple of days ago ^^'
Regardless, we still have to bring a COR, might as well let him use Random Deal

[The Assman]

Does getting the Shijin pop KIs require Lv75 Kirin clear? Trying to figure out why some people can't get them after trading scraps and that's the only thing I can think of.

[Sechs]

Anybody noticed if Zendik Robe has a much lower drop rate than the other items on Warder of Courage?
We've only killed it ~10 times, which is too small of a sample for it to matter, yet we've never seen Zendik Robe and I was wondering if SE wanted this to be a Tartarus Platemail for mages/support or if we've just been unlucky.

[Ramzii]

i think we're about 3/20

[Sechs]

20 is a small sample too but I guess that should hint ==> drop rate is lower than other items, but nowhere near as low as Tartarus Platemail.
Correct?

[NynJa]

I figure I should post this in the crafting thread, but its more likely to get seen here (and its related to Ru'Ann):
Did SE break some of the crafting recipes? I'm trying to make Catoblepas leather with Tanning, and its not working. 1 Dark Crystal, 3 Win Tea Leaves, 3 Cato hides, 1 tanning vat, 1 distilled water...and its telling me this combination of materials cant be combined.

[Wheeldog]

I figure I should post this in the crafting thread, but its more likely to get seen here (and its related to Ru'Ann):
Did SE break some of the crafting recipes? I'm trying to make Catoblepas leather with Tanning, and its not working. 1 Dark Crystal, 3 Win Tea Leaves, 3 Cato hides, 1 tanning vat, 1 distilled water...and its telling me this combination of materials cant be combined.

Catoblepas leather can't be tanned, ffxiah likes to list leather recipes are able to be tanned that actually aren't (behemoth leather is another good example).

[NynJa]

bg-wiki also lists the x3 recipe on both the cato leather page, and the full leathercraft listing page, so someone goofed that up way back when.

None of my logs show me making any x3 leathers, so I guess I dreamed that part up.

[Loire]

i think we're about 3/20

0/21 for us now

[Mojo]

I'm guessing it's around 5% then and we've just gotten lucky (so like d ring drop rate.) Maybe it's better than that, /shrug.

[Ramzii]

or *gasp*

maybe it's like every other NM in the zone where you can either get fucked in the ass by 1/50 or go 1/1

[Mojo]

It can triple drop, it's certainly not the same as the other NMs in the zone.

[Ramzii]

ok, small correction, it has a larger drop pool but i'm willing to bet it's an even distribution like other NMs

[Ramzii]

maybe silly question, is there a strategy to make tenodera not be a completely garbage fight?