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  1. #1
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    Tupsimati Accuracy+30 broken?

    Switching from Akademos to Tupsi and back my Accuracy stays exactly the same. Switching any other gear instantly updates /checkparam. I'd like to think it added ACC once upon a time...


    Can any other Mythic SCHs doublecheck this for me?


    (...or is there another reason and I am dumbing out atm?)

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    I was about to say, since when did any mythic have physical ACC+...? but yeah, there's acc+30 in the description. Which I never noticed. In fact all the mythic staves have that. Which is really weird. It breaks pattern from all the other mythics. I sure as hell would have liked +30 acc on my Ryu, or Burtgang.. <,<

    Sounds like a description error. I'd be pretty curious if BLM and SMN mythics actually get that ACC+ or not.

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    Used to have it even at level 75, I always thought it was SE's way of saying "Hey, we know you mages have no DD gear. Here, take this additional acc so you can hit mobs and get TP for your sexy AM"

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    i can confirm this. 719 acc in cure gear ( just tested it to see if its true) with Tupsi, 719 with Venabulum. switched to non 119 staff Malicesmasher, acc dropped instantly to 521

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    Tried swapping Marin and Nibiru staff > Laevatienn and accuracy check remained the same. Looks like we've been duped!

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    The plot thickens. The JP weapon descriptions definetly also have ACC+30 written on them from 75 through to 119.


    Code:
    Tupsimati:
    
    [Main] 全種族
    DPS: 2985 D200 隔402 命中+30 魔命+30 魔攻+40 魔法ダメージ+248 両手棍スキル+242 受け流しスキル+242 魔命スキル+255 天候と同属性の魔法:敵対心-20 オムニシエンス アフターマス:魔命+/魔攻+/時々2-3回攻撃
    LV 99 学
    
    
    Nirvana:
    
    [Main] 全種族
    DPS: 2985 D200 隔402 命中+30  魔法ダメージ+217 両手棍スキル+242 受け流しスキル+242 魔命スキル+255 召喚獣維持費-8 召喚獣:Lv+2 契約の履行ダメージアップ ガーランドオブブリス アフターマス(召喚獣含む):命中+/攻+/時々2-3回攻撃
    LV 99 召
    
    
    Laevateinn:
    
    [Main] 全種族
    DPS: 2985 D200 隔402 命中+30 魔命+10 魔攻+60 魔法ダメージ+248 両手棍スキル+242 受け流しスキル+242 魔命スキル+255 精霊の印効果アップ ヴィゾフニル アフターマス:魔命+/魔攻+/時々2-3回攻撃
    LV 99 黒

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    So does the NA

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    Currently in the process of upgrading my Tupsimati, it is currently lvl 90. It shows Acc+30.
    Equipping Xsaeta I (lvl 99 Dark Damage staff), my primary accuracy is 464.
    Equipping Tups90 with Acc+30, my primary accuracy is the same, 464.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    (...or is there another reason and I am dumbing out atm?)
    Maybe I'll start playing again and give you Precision full time to make up for your dumb staff. I miss angry Tarus. D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Maybe I'll start playing again and give you Precision full time to make up for your dumb staff. I miss angry Tarus. D:
    Did someone say geo buffs for angry tarus?

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    anyone filed the bug to SE Forums (I cant since i am not allowed to post there anymore ¬.¬)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    anyone filed the bug to SE Forums (I cant since i am not allowed to post there anymore ¬.¬)
    I never even logged in there. I would, but I'd love for someone with Nirvana to step up first and confirm that staff, too.

    Everyone I knew with Nirvana fled Server or got banned.


    EDIT:
    Someone started one here:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ight=tupsimati


    EDIT#2:

    After even deeper digging and sending out my JP bloodhounds I found this post from 2014 reporting the same problem:

    JP Bug Report

    It includes a reply from a GM:

    Code:
    こんにちは、ゲームマスターです。
    回答までに時間がかかってしまい申し訳ございません。
    
    この「命中+30」は、敵にオートアタックする時のみ効果が発揮されています。
    オートアタック限定で、常時発揮されている性能ではないため、「/checkparam」で確認できるキャラクターのステータスには反映されません。
    
    装備品に付加できる特殊性能の数が限られており、「命中+30」を特殊な方法で付加する必要があったため、このような仕様となっております。
    Which was roughly translated to me as: "The ACC+30 only works when autoattacking and won't show up on /checkparam". Maybe we can get a better translation. So either case closed or conspiracy theory of SE giving us false information to not have to deal with the issue !

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    Marin Staff +1 and Laevatienn 119 give me the same Accuracy. Confirmed broken on Laev as well.

    I'm similarly banned from the OF, so if whoever makes the post could include that info it'd be fab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    anyone filed the bug to SE Forums (I cant since i am not allowed to post there anymore ¬.¬)
    Done.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...rking-properly

    My LS leader has a Nirvana, I'll see if he can test his tonight, to see if its limited to Tups, or if its multiple staves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Marin Staff +1 and Laevatienn 119 give me the same Accuracy. Confirmed broken on Laev as well.

    I'm similarly banned from the OF, so if whoever makes the post could include that info it'd be fab.
    I edited my post post from Tups only, to all Mythic Staves. Nirvana is broken also.

  16. #16
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    Recheck my post #12 for updated info on old JP bugreport and quirky SE explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    I never even logged in there. I would, but I'd love for someone with Nirvana to step up first and confirm that staff, too.

    Everyone I knew with Nirvana fled Server or got banned.


    EDIT:
    Someone started one here:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ight=tupsimati


    EDIT#2:

    After even deeper digging and sending out my JP bloodhounds I found this post from 2014 reporting the same problem:

    JP Bug Report

    It includes a reply from a GM:

    Code:
    こんにちは、ゲームマスターです。
    回答までに時間がかかってしまい申し訳ございません。
    
    この「命中+30」は、敵にオートアタックする時のみ効果が発揮されています。
    オートアタック限定で、常時発揮されている性能ではないため、「/checkparam」で確認できるキャラクターのステータスには反映されません。
    
    装備品に付加できる特殊性能の数が限られており、「命中+30」を特殊な方法で付加する必要があったため、このような仕様となっております。
    Which was roughly translated to me as: "The ACC+30 only works when autoattacking and won't show up on /checkparam". Maybe we can get a better translation. So either case closed or conspiracy theory of SE giving us false information to not have to deal with the issue !
    Just checked. Turned off gearswap. used /checkparam, and had Primary Accuracy: 486 for lvl 90 Tupsimati. Engaged a mob, my Primary Accuracy stayed at 486. Even engaged and auto-attacked a mob, and it stayed at 486.

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    He/she said that it won't show up on checkparam. You'd have to parse it to see if they were BSing.

  19. #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Snprphnx View Post
    I edited my post post from Tups only, to all Mythic Staves. Nirvana is broken also.
    actively hitting a mob/t and doing /checkparam <me> is bringing up the same acc values across nirvana and keraunos, same as sitting idle.

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    Misread that a little. It won't show up at all on /checparam, I thought it said it only shows up when engaged.

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