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  1. #321
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    swiftcast eats half your potency so there's really no point.

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    holy shit how am I just catching this LOL. regardlesss,that's still more potency over ruin2.

  3. #323
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    yeah but a smn would be plain bad if they were burning swift on just 20 more potency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    holy shit how am I just catching this LOL. regardlesss,that's still more potency over ruin2.
    No wonder I always out DD your smn as a blm...... Spent to much time on badders I see!

  5. #325
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    you haven't beaten me yet and i started 3 days ago

    and outside of bind, which isnt even needed all the time,what else is going to net you more of a gain out of swift??

  6. #326
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    well, nothing but using swift for anything other than tri bind is really, really, really bad.

    you need that spell to be on demand for a million reasons better than 20 more potency on your ruin.

  7. #327
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    you haven't beaten me yet and i started 3 days ago

    and outside of bind, which isnt even needed all the time,what else is going to net you more of a gain out of swift??
    Pfffft details details. And if you come back to mael with us then youll need bind more to stop khonor when he comes for us..... and he will..... nothing stops him.

  8. #328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    and outside of bind, which isnt even needed all the time,what else is going to net you more of a gain out of swift??
    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    well, nothing but using swift for anything other than tri bind is really, really, really bad.

    you need that spell to be on demand for a million reasons better than 20 more potency on your ruin.
    Bind saves your life and ends theirs with LB. You don't need SC Ruin3 to kill someone, there are many factors deciding whether they get away or die (reaction time of player/healers, your own skill/buffs, terrain, etc).

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfk View Post
    Pfffft details details. And if you come back to mael with us then youll need bind more to stop khonor when he comes for us..... and he will..... nothing stops him.
    Did you all leave then? I still see Rem.

    GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY KHONOR! But really, so many attempts were made to steal him away. lol

  9. #329
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluffmode View Post
    Does anybody remember joeneverfails ingame name?
    joe never. i am assuming this is for headunting purposes and i wholly approve. hopefully you have better luck running into him than my group has, lol.

  10. #330
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    yeah swiftcasting your bind is a game changer for those reasons. i mean it's not much more simple than "life" and "death". might even say it's a game breaker. so much of what smn can do with a snap bind is criminally underrated and underused. CC and using your abilities to force opponents into bad positioning is soooooo important.

  11. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moridam View Post
    joe never. i am assuming this is for headunting purposes and i wholly approve. hopefully you have better luck running into him than my group has, lol.
    yeah i think he is joe never off of primal. but on primal he would play WD under the name epic fails or epic failz. so i assume he had 2 chars on diff servers.

  12. #332
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun! View Post
    Did you all leave then? I still see Rem.

    GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY KHONOR! But really, so many attempts were made to steal him away. lol
    Not yet, the 15 days isn't up yet so most likely this Sunday for most of us.
    The times are great but its not making up for the sheer amount of stupidity/bads/tome farmers. Adders have some good players but they are way to few and far between.

    And at least let us convince him to come to excal! then you can do premades with him while we convince both of you to come mael lol



    or at the very least run with us for the next few days

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    is it going to matter at all with feast coming soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    is it going to matter at all with feast coming soon
    GCs?
    I wasn't even going to touch feast if they didn't do something about ast, tank damage was a nice bonus.
    But it is still catered to every special snowflake so they don't cry about being destroyed buy actual pvpers with actual pvp sets/food/pots/ etc. Everyone will try it im sure but its not going to kill front lines as much as ppl think it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfk View Post
    Not yet, the 15 days isn't up yet so most likely this Sunday for most of us.
    The times are great but its not making up for the sheer amount of stupidity/bads/tome farmers. Adders have some good players but they are way to few and far between.

    And at least let us convince him to come to excal! then you can do premades with him while we convince both of you to come mael lol





    or at the very least run with us for the next few days
    You don't like PVP hard mode (aka Adders)?

    Premade with Khonor is not the same as finding him on the GC landing on his horse, knowing it will be a good fight. It adds to the excitement!

    I work Fri/Sat/Sun, but maybe I can catch you guys queueing.

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    probably a good point in that not everyone who likes SR will jump over to feast. i assume lots will try and depending on how fun it is they may or may not play it. the fun factor, rankings, and seasonal rewards will likely determine its success in the end.

    i assume though that if people don't flock to it that SE will make enough changes to make sure it's #1. just like how they got people to give up on WD for frontlines, secure for slaughter, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    probably a good point in that not everyone who likes SR will jump over to feast. i assume lots will try and depending on how fun it is they may or may not play it. the fun factor, rankings, and seasonal rewards will likely determine its success in the end.

    i assume though that if people don't flock to it that SE will make enough changes to make sure it's #1. just like how they got people to give up on WD for frontlines, secure for slaughter, etc.
    At least for me, nothing will compare to 72 man clusterfucks, its just more fun imo, Ill do feat a few times,but I doubt it will be enough fun to draw me away, even if frontlines puts out 8v8v8 only Id still rather those.
    Meh its all in the air, I might fall in love with feast but with all the crap about gear/materia/food being removed its already leaving a sour taste that might cloud my bias.

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    Uncapped WD will still exist for the hardest of the hardcore, right?

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    it's gonna be lvl 50 though lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    yeah i think he is joe never off of primal. but on primal he would play WD under the name epic fails or epic failz. so i assume he had 2 chars on diff servers.


    "HEY GUYS IM STREAMING DONT MAKE ME LOOK BAD" :^)


    Also I fucking love mnk in pvp now, never really gave it a chance before but its so easy to shit on people and forbidden chakra is killshot city

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