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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    They just need to jack the guys currently designing content for XI when that game is done in March, since they've done so much with so little in the past year, despite the amount of resource recycling.
    When you think about it, I'm really upset for them because they're dwelling in Yoshi's shadow while they could easily come up with something hundred of times better than what we currently have, and it would keep us busy for enough time to let them bring something else out.

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    Isn't the team that's working on FF14 the one that was doing awesome stuff in FFXI around the time of Abyssea? I remember a ton of FFXI players getting super butthurt about the swap when SE was frantically trying to bail FF14 out.

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    They did take the majority of the XI team over. So in all actuality, yoshida is the limiting factor. I mean, he was one of the lead designers for DQX and they had some interesting things there..even being a Wii Based MMO (on more platforms now including 3DS. Then again, he knows the JP wouldn't have taken his shit if they fucked with DQ. FF...just about anyone out west will lap it up as long as it's called Final Fantasy. Guess come 3.1 we'll see if they put any care into it - he said void ark is the "original FFXIV raid"...meaning it should be fucking amazing if it's not pulling references or design queues from older FFs.

    Aside you know Cait Sith.

    Whom had a major role in FFXI at one point.

    And linked to some pretty awesome content for its time.

  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    XI's dev team is like the mom & pop eatery you go to for amazing food - XIV's is like Mcdonalds. XIV's dev team has a ton of people but they keep the "core" small, but XIV's dev team is hovering 200-300 after ARR launch which I believe dropped to at least 150. If they have only one person handling the actual content design...that explains everything. They need to get Matsui as that one person and fire whichever intern is designing XIV's content.
    I think it's a stretch to compare FFXI's content to amazing food. It's more like the guilty pleasure diner breakfast. It's really not good for you, but sometimes you crave it and it hits the spot.

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    Just take FFXI during ToAU heydays, update the graphics and UI and put out fresh servers. I will never play another MMO again.

  6. #246
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    ToAU? Chains of Promathia! Nothing beats endless nights of doing those fights in the story. Especially airship fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    XI's dev team is like the mom & pop eatery you go to for amazing food - XIV's is like Mcdonalds.
    Just gonna leave this here because this is great.

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    I don't think it's even necessarily the gameplay mechanic changes alone. The playerbase is also a problem, though the current state of the game encourages such a playerbase.

    I'm letting my sub lapse and I'll go ahead and wait and see what happens in 3.1. If PLD's still shit and void arc/airships are also shit there's really no reason to keep playing.

    I mean honestly what's the fun in logging in to play with 3 total strangers every day to get gear that serves no function in a game so devoid of meaningful or enjoyable side activities? And what's the point of trying to do the other shit (EX Primals, Savage Alex) if there are so many issues (being tied to 7 people for the later, entitled players joining groups and horribly failing for the former)?


    All for literally the reward of one weapon. No silly trinkets, no flavor items, just more numbers =/

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    Void Ark will be identical to CT/ST/WoD.

    -There will be a weekly quest that rewards gobcoat, later on gobtwine will be added as an option, much later on gobdip will be added
    -This quest will possibly succeed the old CT/ST/WoD repeatable and possibly require you to clear all 4 to complete (I would not put this past SE at all, but thus far nothing in HW requires you to do anything non-HW so we'll see)
    -Gear will be i200

    As for relics, I think we all know what to expect and no one wants to be reminded of it.

    Probably add a few MSQ-tier trial fights a la Chim/Hydra for it.

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    I think Void Ark will introduce (or be introduced alongside) some new gimmick, and it'll be a big one; something with similar impact to merit points or magian trials.

    Even Yoshida has to know that this game is super stale and adding more normcore gear won't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    I think Void Ark will introduce some new gimmick, maybe even ability materia. Even Yoshida has to know that this game is super stale and more normcore gear won't change that.
    Heh.

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    Have more hope than I do, I'm 100% certain that Void Ark is just going to give us i200 gear.

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    Idk what keeps me playing.

    I have only been logging on to idle and help an RL friend's raid group on an alt. I really feel like SE fucked up a passable excuse for a game by making an easy mode Alexander fight before releasing a raid-tier version of it.

    The excitement of zoning into a new raid boss isn't there, it's just the same boss with tweaked mechanics that you and every joe shmoe has seen before. The entire raid tier is anti-climactic and boring.

    I feel even worse for the people who don't do any savage. The fucks I give about wanting to stomach another EX roulette is worse than any WP ever was. At least you could reliably speed run that, with randos.

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    Only thing Void Ark will introduce is rage. People think that it will drop upgrade items for Eso gear, but think how ridiculous that would be. You can get the same gear lvl from beating face roll content as you could from AS3 and 4 idk. Airship will most likely be maps 2.0 maybe harder mobs...maybe? Still doubt it will drop anything but crafter stuff and minions.

    Hope I am proven wrong and it is actually relevant interesting content but it just does not seem likely. I would love a relic quest that has you choosing unique upgrades and a fun quest while Void Ark and Airship drops are connected to items that can alter the effectiveness of it. Something like Primal quest chain -> Exploration or Airship chain -> Void Ark Item - > then some QoL altercation you can choose like faster fiv or infinite aetherial manipulations and who gives a shit if it you choose the best dps option as long as you like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    I think Void Ark will introduce (or be introduced alongside) some new gimmick, and it'll be a big one; something with similar impact to merit points or magian trials.
    i think this is the first time i've seen anyone be so optimistic about Void Ark. my best hope is that there are actually too many jobs now to not have tokens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Have more hope than I do, I'm 100% certain that Void Ark is just going to give us i200 gear.
    i have some doubts on this, do they really want to turn Alex Normal into Bismarck EX already?

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    My only hope is there's silly mechanics that can be abused to make the entire alliance mad. As shitty as CT was I miss wiping out the 2 other parties on the Bone Dragon by burning it and then just 8 manning the fight whilst everyone gets salty as fuck in alliance chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon_Sea View Post
    Only thing Void Ark will introduce is rage. People think that it will drop upgrade items for Eso gear, but think how ridiculous that would be. You can get the same gear lvl from beating face roll content as you could from AS3 and 4 idk.
    Because they haven't done this twice already?

    Oh and they'll also be added to hunts ofc (requiring a stupid amount of seals).

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    It made more sense when coil had no story mode and was not as hard as savage. Now there is an alternative to the hard raid and the hard raid is hard as shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil View Post
    i have some doubts on this, do they really want to turn Alex Normal into Bismarck EX already?
    Implying it already isn't. lol

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    If they don't remove the lockout on Alex normal with 3.1 it's gonna be really stupid.

    Gating alt-class gear that you wouldn't even be bringing to Savage at this point anyway is pointless.

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