What makes you keep playing?

[ellanelle]

At least right now the main reason I keep playing is for Savage and getting weekly clears / sales / attempting speed runs maybe when time permits. I also do slow paced levelling of my other classes to try and slowly work them all to 60 but have mostly avoided doing more than one or two experts a week. I've also been trying to get good at black mage again since I used to main it in SCOB and FCOB and only recently got it to 60 and would like to be more than proficient in at least one dps class. Luckily I'm pretty busy with work these days so it's not like the game being in "maintenance" mode as it were, no progression only weekly clears, is really all that bad and I should have a bit more time by the time new stuff comes out :D

[Seravi Edalborez]

I am half-hoping Verminion is... better than Triple Triad is currently. The act of collecting the cards was ok but the game itself is poorly incentivized and the tournament system just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouths. Hoping that Verminion doesn't fall into the same traps but who are we kidding, of course it'll probably be the same thing again. At least it'll be a "new" minigame so we can go into it somewhat fresh.

I would re-sub if Verminion was any good and I can only run the game for like 40 minutes at a time.

[Neon_Sea]

With the amount of time they dedicated to it on the live letter it better be good as shit.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I hope exclusive minions are boss as fuck so people complain it's P2W.

[Spider-Dan]

Supposedly the Wind-up Dalamud (1.0 OST) spawns baby Bahamuts?

That being said, it looks like the minions have different point values (10/20/30) and you can only put out 60 points to start the match.

[kisada]

I am half-hoping Verminion is... better than Triple Triad is currently. The act of collecting the cards was ok but the game itself is poorly incentivized and the tournament system just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouths. Hoping that Verminion doesn't fall into the same traps but who are we kidding, of course it'll probably be the same thing again. At least it'll be a "new" minigame so we can go into it somewhat fresh.

I would re-sub if Verminion was any good and I can only run the game for like 40 minutes at a time.

pretty much why i expect wd2 to be a complete disaster that blows up in their faces. i look at WD, i look at frontlines and their GC restrictions, i look at TT tournament boards, etc. their history of developing things like these beyond basic function is spotty, at best.

[Niiro]

At least WD doesn't have GC restrictions, that alone gives WDv2 a lot of potential.

[Raldo]

I am racking my brain and I have no idea what "WD" is referring to

[Fievel]

I am racking my brain and I have no idea what "WD" is referring to

Wolves den

[Rocl]

I am racking my brain and I have no idea what "WD" is referring to

whispering dawn

[kisada]

At least WD doesn't have GC restrictions, that alone gives WDv2 a lot of potential.

it doesn't, but if they plan on making it 8 man they're almost certainly going to have to do job restriction. i can't imagine how ridiculous it's going to be hoping to get selected for the job lotto, esp when you have no idea which job would be needed in queue.

[Niiro]

I'll help you out then:

Healers will always be needed most, then tanks, then DPS.

[Seravi Edalborez]

They'll probably just do WD x2 for the job restrictions: 2 tank, 2 heal, 2 melee, 2 ranged. What, you mean PLD PLD WHM WHM ... ... BRD BRD isn't balanced against WAR WAR AST AST ... ... SMN SMN? Too bad!

That's actually kind of stupid in retrospect that they value casters and ranged-support in the same spot. In PvP.

What would be more balanced though? Enforcing DPS to be like...

Melee
Melee
Ranged Phys
Ranged Caster

Or do you sub out melee 2 for something?

Probably gonna be a queue nightmare regardless.

[kisada]

I'll help you out then:

Healers will always be needed most, then tanks, then DPS.

k

what i'm talking about is if they restrict parties to one job only. if you have a million asts, drks, and smns all queuing then only one of each is gonna get in. there are going to be huge bottlenecks.

[kisada]

They'll probably just do WD x2 for the job restrictions: 2 tank, 2 heal, 2 melee, 2 ranged. What, you mean PLD PLD WHM WHM ... ... BRD BRD isn't balanced against WAR WAR AST AST ... ... SMN SMN? Too bad!

That's actually kind of stupid in retrospect that they value casters and ranged-support in the same spot. In PvP.

What would be more balanced though? Enforcing DPS to be like...

Melee
Melee
Ranged Phys
Ranged Caster

Or do you sub out melee 2 for something?

Probably gonna be a queue nightmare regardless.

honestly i don't see them doing anything but one of each job, max. there will be too many people complaining on the OF about job stacking being OP, and maybe rightfully so. as a competitor you still overlook that but for the average, casual player who never in a million years will figure out how to burst down an ast, an impossible task is now doubly so and OF people will complain until the devs are forced to change it. i'd go so far as to say the devs will bring it out of the gates like that to begin with.

[Niiro]

k

what i'm talking about is if they restrict parties to one job only. if you have a million asts, drks, and smns all queuing then only one of each is gonna get in. there are going to be huge bottlenecks.

Ah, that's certainly possible, but really I don't care, no matter what I'm not expecting anything impressive or well thought out, definitely not in the realm of PvP.

[lilbubbles]

Ya, it's pretty hard to have a well thought out afterthought.

[Prothescar]

re: inventory space and retainer costs

Remember when we were supposed to be getting a 3rd retainer for free? Seems almost no one does 'cuz I haven't heard anyone talk about it since they said it and never ended up following through with it.

[Kaisha]

Was there ever a source that said we'd get a free one? I always thought it was assumed, but then the 'more retainers' ended up being able to pay for four more monthly.

[Niiro]

re: inventory space and retainer costs

Remember when we were supposed to be getting a 3rd retainer for free? Seems almost no one does 'cuz I haven't heard anyone talk about it since they said it and never ended up following through with it.

There was plenty of bitching about it (mostly from me) when the reveal that "more retainers" meant "more retainers...that you can pay for, faggots!" when the patch notes for 3.0 were released.