September 2015 Version Update - *DISCUSSION THREAD*

[geno3302]

I keep offering to ban all these people if someone wants to flip the mod switch

[Protey]

Hmmm. We've seen reforged sky gods, reforged sea gods..... I wonder if in the last update we see reforged ToAU NMs to include reforged Pandemonium Warden.

[dasva]

So traded SR gear and got 600 points for that too... so I guess a little over half an aman voucher might be better than 1k baldy?

[NynJa]

So traded SR gear and got 600 points for that too... so I guess a little over half an aman voucher might be better than 1k baldy?

Unless your HPB is greater than 60k each, you'd be better off with the bayld (1HPB = 10k bayld, 60k/HPB = 6k per 1k bayld) since 600 sparks = 6k gil. It gives SR gear you upgraded some value though.

And I didnt even hide that information behind "confrontational douchebaggery"

[Fwahm]

I think you mean you're better off with the sparks?

[NynJa]

Did I fuck up? I thought I did that math with someone on LS using 40k/HPB (Carby price), and we both agreed bayld > sparks

1 bayld = 4 gil (at 40k/HPB)
1 spark = ~10 gil (if converting straight to gil)

1k bayld = 4k gil
600 sparks = 6k gil

Sparks > bayld, unless your HPB's are greater than 60k, oops. I dont make these mistakes when I'm trying to be a confrontational douchebag.

[dasva]

Unless your HPB is greater than 60k each, you'd be better off with the bayld (1HPB = 10k bayld, 60k/HPB = 6k per 1k bayld) since 600 sparks = 6k gil. It gives SR gear you upgraded some value though.

And I didnt even hide that information behind "confrontational douchebaggery"

Well I wasn't even really considering gil so much as the option to do trade in for other currencies so you don't have to mess with any number of contents you might not feel like doing. I'd really hate to have to grind out some conquest points or Imperial Standing or even allied notes these days

Also I haven't really been paying attention much to this thread lately but confrontational douchebaggery?

[Hoshiku]

I guess it depends on how many times you plan to spam SR. :X I take the bayld because it stretches my dwindling supply that much further (700k bayld in and still don't have the augments I want).

[NynJa]

Also I haven't really been paying attention much to this thread lately but confrontational douchebaggery?

It was a shot at this idiot.

Edit: obviously your contributions to the forum and game over the years go without saying, one just often needs to wade through confrontational dbaggery to get to it.

[dasva]

Balyd is pretty easy to farm now too. Did a little bit of testing but it seems they roughly doubled how much lair and colo reives can give. Kind of funny since despite saying they would fix it during the double campaigns they failed but now they easily do it permanently

[dasva]

So Apex mobs in outer ra'ka are on the bottom floor western corners. Butterflies in the south bats up north. Might have been decent camps for some kind of dagger burn if they both didn't contain Apex Ironclads as well

[Sechs]

What kind of bats are the Apex in Ra'kaz? The type that uses eva down (big bat) or the type that uses attack down (tri bat).
If it's the former they could be an excellent xp camp for piercing damage melees.

[dasva]

Single bats. Just watch out for all the ironclads they are as annoying as ever

[dasva]

So I think the old dmg display cap minus the roll over now applies cp probably xp as well. I say this because I just killed one of the super apex mobs with 3 characters all with completely fresh cp rings. Despite having decently varying amounts of cp bonuses (most notably only 1 was using cape and that was also the one that had around 200 jp spent while the others were at around 20) they all got around 65535 cp according to the log... but the character with a bunch of bonuses actually used up it's commitment effect suggesting it got more.

Also since a fresh commitment wore that means i got at least 30k bonus which I believe is factored before the double campaign. Since it was trizek that should mean I got at least 20k base 50k after ring for at least 100k all said and done. At least I think that's what it means.

[Hitou]

Yeah, ring bonuses are doubled, not sure if cape and other bonuses are though. Ring alone would be 60k but since CAP+ bonuses cause rings to wear off faster, you're not getting the full effect of those bonuses till the ring wears off anyway. Since they're apparently added together with the ring bonus and then drain the 30k total together. If it wasn't that way you'd still take the same total amount of mobs for a ring to wear as anyone else despite differences in gifts etc. Which is kind of annoying since it means the more CAP+ bonuses you have the less effective the ring charge actually is.

[Sechs]

Yeah, ring bonuses are doubled, not sure if cape and other bonuses are though.

Don't really think the cape (or the other static bonuses coming from KIs and RoE) are doubled, why would they? They're just static bonuses.
In the past they specifically stated that the "Dedication" bonus is doubled to 60k max though.
Never seen anybody testing it though and I never tested it myself, just assumed it to be true.
Campaign should be over by now btw.

[Shenrien]

I've dug around and I can't seem to find any information about Telos Earring, anyone have a confirmed place this thing drops?

[Sechs]

It's believed to be dropping from Warder of Courage (AV v2) together with Zendik Robe and the COR gun.
Nobody killed it yet though, so we can't be 100% sure.

[dasva]

Don't really think the cape (or the other static bonuses coming from KIs and RoE) are doubled, why would they? They're just static bonuses.
In the past they specifically stated that the "Dedication" bonus is doubled to 60k max though.
Never seen anybody testing it though and I never tested it myself, just assumed it to be true.
Campaign should be over by now btw.

There is cp testing in the mathy section. Things like cape and a lot of other static bonuses were added together first then multiplied by things like ring and roll and campaign

[dasva]

So finally went back to test one of what I term Apex bosses and got this...



no ring, no campaign and only like 30% cp cape and about 400 jp of gifts in a 3 man pt, had trust cor roll and kupo though. With ring it of course hit the display cap again. Forgot to check to see it actually does give more than 1 jp per kill if you hit that high or if you are under some dumb limit like lvling