The Pope thread

[Byrthnoth]

I will wait for the next financial statement to see whether Francis puts the Church's money where his mouth is. Charity normally comes in around 3% of the Church's operating costs, 60% of which come from governments and is distributed by the Church.

[Jefe]

You don't think anyone in the Vatican has ever lied? Really?

What about fiddling kids? Is that not a sin?

I don't share your rosy view of the world that everyone must be exactly who they say they are.

Irrelevant conclusion. Anyway, same thing happened in Cuba; just replace the broad w/ Castro opponents. Also, Castro gave him a 'Communist Cross,' or something like that and people got pissed. Some Cubans were also pissed because he didn't overthrow Castro. People are just pissed, mang.

[Marootsoobutsu]

I will wait for the next financial statement to see whether Francis puts the Church's money where his mouth is. Charity normally comes in around 3% of the Church's operating costs, 60% of which come from governments and is distributed by the Church.

Depends on how you define it. The American Catholic Church spend 98.6B on hospitals and health care, and another 48.8B on colleges and universities, both of which have a ton of charitable over-lap, in lower-priced health care (my wife had heart surgery at one that was 80% cost-forgiven for our rather-sizable portion of the costs) and scholarships (and say what you will about Catholics, Jesuits do a pretty darned good job of teaching at the collegiate level). Then about 4.7% of their 170B budget went to "Charity". That's a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot more than 4.7% going to charity, and a ton going to social works. 11% went to parishes and dioceses. If the international is close to that kind of expenditure, saying they spend 3% on charity feels a little dishonest.

Edit: should note that the 11% of parishes and dioceses includes their expenses on Pk-12 schools.

[Byrthnoth]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/pope-gay-washington/ Pope,why can't you just pick an opinion?! If you want to learn about the Church's financials, here is a review from 2012: http://www.economist.com/node/21560536

[archibaldcrane]

It's almost as if he'll meet with anyone! Why hasn't he succumbed to our entrenched tribal politics!

[Dimmauk]

It's almost as if he'll meet with anyone! Why hasn't he succumbed to our entrenched tribal politics!

He probably visited the gay couple and gave them hugs as a pre safe face for his monumental meeting with THE Kim Davis. The Vatican was thinking way ahead on this one. He also probably told the gay couple that they were also going to hell and to tell Kim Davis hi for him.

[Andalusian girls]

it's not like he said damn i need to meet some gay peoples, he met with an old friend from Argentina who happens to be gay

[Tyrath]

it's not like he said damn i need to meet some gay peoples, he met with an old friend from Argentina who happens to be gay

This.

The safeface and backpedaling is unreal. Also did he sneak his gay friend into the embassy? Because they snuck Kim Davis and her husband into the embassy. It's like they knew it's not something that would sit well with the people he is trying to win over.

[Dimmauk]

The Vatican sneaks everyone in. Haven't you seen Hudson Hawk?

[archibaldcrane]

it's not like he said damn i need to meet some gay peoples, he met with an old friend from Argentina who happens to be gay

and an atheist

BREAKING: THE POPE MET WITH AN ATHEIST, MEANS HE NO LONGER BELIEVES IN GOD

[Jefe]

LOL THE SAVE FACE IS UNREAL, OUT OF THIS WORLD LOL

[Xno Kappa]

Some of you are really hell bent on turning this into a Team Edward vs Team Jacob type shit.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Some of you are really hell bent on turning this into a Team Edward vs Team Jacob type shit.

Are you implying the Pope is a werewolf?

[BaneTheBrawler]

How do you think the Vatican has been suppressing the Vampire population all these years?

[Blubbartron]

How do you think the Vatican has been suppressing the Vampire population all these years?

Well this explains why us atheists are always eating babies. Vampires need that delicious, pure blood.

[Wulfgang]

This.

The safeface and backpedaling is unreal. Also did he sneak his gay friend into the embassy? Because they snuck Kim Davis and her husband into the embassy. It's like they knew it's not something that would sit well with the people he is trying to win over.

Haha man; motion to rename this the Pope haters thread

[Tyrath]

Haha man; motion to rename this the Pope haters thread

Why? There are plenty of people on the other side of the argument.

[Salodin]

Haha man; motion to rename this the Pope haters thread

Please this!

Didn't an article already explain that Kim saw the pope not in some VIP underground bunker meeting, but as part of a larger group? Confused why we're still on this.

[Ragnus]

http://usuncut.com/news/pope-francis...ith-kim-davis/

[archibaldcrane]

The important lines from the NYT article:

Archbishop Viganò is turning 75 in January, the age at which bishops must submit a formal request to the Vatican asking for permission to resign. These requests are not automatically accepted, and bishops often stay in their appointments well past age 75. But if Archbishop Viganò is held responsible for what is seen as a grave misstep on an important papal trip, he is likely to be removed at the first respectable opportunity, according to several church analysts.